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All I was doing was asking a question as to why the call is what it is.
How I understand rules/regulations, this would be a Defensive throw-in violation as the offense is unable to complete the throw-in. However, show me the rule & case book play that shows otherwise, & my thinking will change.
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You're making up rules. Of course the defense is trying to prevent the offense from completing a throw-in -- no rule prohibits that.
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mbyron, I also asked that be shown the rule &/or case book play that says otherwise, which you did not do. How about 9-2-10?
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Now tell us how 9-2-10 applies.
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If the ball did recross the plane then B1 would be in violation? ART. 10. . . The opponent(s) of the thrower shall not have any part of his/her person through the inbounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass. NOTE: The thrower may penetrate the plane provided he/she does not touch the inbounds area before the ball is released on the throw-in pass. The opponent in this situation may legally touch or grasp the ball. A1 holds the ball across the plane, true, however what constitutes the legality of B1 being able to grab the ball causing the "jump ball"? Also why didn't A1 just release the ball as soon as B1 grabbed it? In this sitch, there are many what ifs or whys.
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I like it when the answer is so obvious that all I have to do is post a citation that addresses it exactly! (And I've been able to do that twice just in this thread!) |
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How does a thrower cause the ball to be out of bounds whenever he is legally out of bounds and the throw-in hasn't ended? The correct call is a held ball.
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The throw-in did not end. A1 is legally out of bounds.
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The defensive player crosses the plane such as 7-6-4
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The player breaking the plane is the violation. It has nothing to do with completing the throw-in.
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Um, no. The thrower held the ball over the plane in-bounds. The defender grabbed the ball on the in-bounds side of the plane. At NO time, did the defender cross the plane out-of-bounds. That's why it's a legal play.
You don't have a friggin' clue whatinthehell you're talking about. And that includes when and why to start the clock. If you don't understand what we're talking about, by all means ask questions until you do. But DO NOT try to tell us what to do. Quite simply, you do not have the rules knowledge to be doing something like that. Just a suggestion from the kinder, gentler JR..... |
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