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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 09:54am
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This is what you guys would call at any level (HS, NCAA, Pro) regardless of time & score?

I did make the unpopular, but correct call last night & one of my dearest friends & mentors told me, I would have the shortest college career in history if I go out there imposing myself on a great game

I own all 3 books & the rule is quite clear as to what should be called in this situation. But my friend (DI official) says I could have handled it differently.

Perhaps he was trying to prepare me for what is a common occurance in the particular leagues I'll be working...
But I honestly thought we couldn't go wrong if we simply call the rules as written. In the words of Vinnie Barbarino, "Im so confused"
You need to talk to your league supervisor/evaluator/training officer, not your mentor. Get your direction from the person responsible for direction. It's that simple.
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 10:05am
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Do any of these sage mentors (this thread and the elbow thread) not realize that coaches watch the preseason videos also?
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 10:22am
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You need to talk to your league supervisor/evaluator/training officer, not your mentor. Get your direction from the person responsible for direction. It's that simple.
Absoutely JR! For the record, this was a mens wreck game & my guy was working on the court next to me. I didn't ask his opinion on this play, he kinda brought it to me.
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 10:28am
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Wreck ball? Your "D1" mentor is telling you this during wreck ball? Pffft. INT foul and I don't even think twice about it.
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 10:36am
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Wreck ball? Your "D1" mentor is telling you this during wreck ball? Pffft. INT foul and I don't even think twice about it.
We use this level of play to prepare for the season, calling the game as if it were a real game. He was simply asking if I plan to make this same call during the season & why I shouldn't.
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 11:11am
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In the pro game, I believe this is considered an Away-from-the-Play foul, essentially the same as the Intentional in HS/NCAA.
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In the NBA this would be an away-from-the-play foul.
Yes!! I knew I had that one right.

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Talk to your supervisor, but it's pretty clear that the higher-ups expect this to be an intentional foul.
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You need to talk to your league supervisor/evaluator/training officer, not your mentor. Get your direction from the person responsible for direction. It's that simple.
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Absoutely JR!
Wait. "Absolutely, JR"? Where's my props???
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 11:29am
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My bad, good lookin out Scrappy!

Looks like you went 2 for 2 there

Thanks 2 all for their input!
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 11:36am
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NBA rule is not equivalent -- only one free throw
Section X--Away-From-The-Play Foul
a. During the last two minutes of the fourth period or overtime period(s) with the offensive team in possession of the ball, all personal fouls which are assessed against the defensive team prior to the ball being released on a throw-in and/or away-from-the-play, shall be administered as follows:
(1) A personal foul and team foul shall be assessed and one free throw attempt shall be awarded. The free throw may be attempted by any play-er in the game at the time the personal foul was committed.
(2) If the foul occurs when the ball is inbounds, the offended team shall be awarded the ball at the nearest point where play was interrupted but no nearer to the baseline than the free throw line extended.
(3) If the foul occurs prior to the release on a throw-in, the offended team shall be awarded the ball at the original throw-in spot, with all privileges, if any, remaining.
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Yes!! I knew I had that one right.

Wait. "Absolutely, JR"? Where's my props???
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 02:15pm
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Wait. "Absolutely, JR"? Where's my props???
He probably over-looked you.
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Old Tue Nov 02, 2010, 02:19pm
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For the record, this was a mens wreck game & my guy was working on the court next to me. I didn't ask his opinion on this play, he kinda brought it to me.
Follow the same procedure that you use at a camp when someone gives you instructions that you know are wrong. Listen intently, nod your head in agreement and then ignore the advice when he's out of sight. That saves your friendship and also lets you do what you know is right.

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