Clock/Time question

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I disagree. To state that event A to occurs before event B implies that event B does occur. The statement establishes an order of events, not a hypothetical order of possible events.

I tend to agree, since the horn is mentioned.

I would still prefer that it had said:

A1 is fouled in the act of shooting, immediately after which the horn sounds, signaling the end of the period.

[just another ref]

I actually was in on a similar situation regarding end of the game or not.

horn?

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Weird...is this only in situations where the officials don't have definite knowledge of what to put back on the clock? What if an official sees 1.0 when he whistles a foul and for some reason, the timer doesn't stop the clock in time (wouldn't happen with our resident expert timekeeper )?

I've been able to stop the clock before with .1 seconds left on the clock for a foul, of course everyone in the stands was belly aching about it. Generally one of my hands is always on the switch in case a whistle happens.

I've been able to stop the clock at least once on each tenth of a second during the last second of a period.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I've been able to stop the clock before with .1 seconds left on the clock for a foul......

I've been able to stop the clock at least once on each tenth of a second during the last second of a period.

You should be automatically certified based on these accomplishments alone.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I've been able to stop the clock before with .1 seconds left on the clock for a foul, of course everyone in the stands was belly aching about it. Generally one of my hands is always on the switch in case a whistle happens.

I've been able to stop the clock at least once on each tenth of a second during the last second of a period.

Eagleboy, we always knew you were quick on the trigger...
Please accept my caution that such self-congratulatory gyrations as patting yourself on the back so vigorously may result in physical impairment much more severe than straining ones knee ligaments.

[Kelvin green]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

BillyMac would have done this eventually....

5.6 SITUATION: A1 is fouled in the act of shooting by B1. A1's try or tap is successful to make the score with team A leading 62-58. When the foul occurs, the clock is stopped with 0:00 showing, but no end-of-period signal (horn or light) has indicated.
RULING: A1 will attempt the free throw with the lane spaces occupied as required. The fourth period time has not expired until the period-ending signal.

As I said, that test question evolved from this case play and has been used several times already iirc.

I will need to point this out.

The reason in this play (5.6) that the players line up is there is still time on the clock as the horn nor light have gone off.

If the horn has gone off and no definite time we would not line up players on the line...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

The case play refers to the clock reading 0 minutes and 00 seconds, which does not take tenths into account. The clock could have been stopped with time remaining, which would explain why the horn hadn't sounded.

Make sure that the clock operator has the automatic horn on. If the automatic horn is off, then the buzzer won't sound. In thirty years I've had the 0:00 situation with no horn several times. I always ask the clock operator, "Is the automatic horn on?" If he replies, "No", I ask him to turn it on. In many, but not all cases, the horn sounds, so we don't line up rebounders for the free throw. In a couple of cases the horn didn't sound when the automatic horn was turned on, so we had the rebounders line up during the free throws.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Make sure that the clock operator has the automatic horn on. If the automatic horn is off, then the buzzer won't sound. In thirty years I've had the 0:00 situation with no horn several times. I always ask the clock operator, "Is the automatic horn on?" If he replies, "No", I ask him to turn it on. In many, but not all cases, the horn sounds, so we don't line up rebounders for the free throw. In a couple of cases the horn didn't sound when the automatic horn was turned on, so we had the rebounders line up during the free throws.

Why would you ever want to turn this off?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Why would you ever want to turn this off?

Maybe it was off for some other sport.

Maybe it was turned off as the time was running down while the National Anthem was being played.

Maybe the console was programmed "wrong" when the new sport / game was started.

Maybe it was turned off by accident.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Maybe it was off for some other sport. Maybe it was turned off as the time was running down while the National Anthem was being played. Maybe the console was programmed "wrong" when the new sport / game was started. Maybe it was turned off by accident.

There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. It wasn't my fault, I swear to God.