Perkins Ejection

[MathReferee]

I am sure some others are watching the game as well. Regardless of the debate of whether it was a foul/nonfoul to begin with, that seemed like a quick technical. Granted at the HS level, I do not care if a player is walking away or not, saying "that was a BS call" is automatic. In the NBA, I have just seen a lot worse that were not called.

Anyway, my thoughts...how good of a look to Eddie Rush have on the foul? From his angle I would think he would see the push, but he certainly signaled otherwise. He obviously did not realize that was the second T on Perkins as they did not eject him right away (where was the table crew on this one ). Does he let that go if he does know he had one already? It was an interesting sequence that I think is the first time I can remember a crew botching administration procedures, which leads me to think it caught everyone off guard.

I loved the announcers saying that he should "man up" and admit the mistake and retract the technical. "Oh wait, you are right, that was a bad call, nevermind my whistle. In fact why am I even out here?"

Also just heard that was Perkins 7th technical of the playoffs, which means he is out for the possible game 6, if the league upholds the technical. Anyone want to wager that the league will rescind that technical?? If betting were legal and all.

[Judtech]

See Donaghey thread LOL

[APG]

I'd be surprised if the NBA did not rescind the technical foul. To me, it appeared as if it was a heat of the moment reaction that resolved itself. Usually a heat of the moment reaction is allowed (within reason) if the player does not direct it toward the official and the situation resolves itself quickly (which I think he did a good job of walking away).

As to the call, Ed Rush called a hit which surprised me as I also thought he was calling a foul on the displacement. It's possible he saw something from his angle which they never showed.

On a side note, Perkins can mean mug with the best of them!

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AustinRef

Anyone want to wager that the league will rescind that technical?? If betting were legal and all.

When did it become illegal?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by AustinRef

Also just heard that was Perkins 7th technical of the playoffs, which means he is out for the possible game 6, if the league upholds the technical. Anyone want to wager that the league will rescind that technical?? If betting were legal and all.

As stated above:

"Barring a reprieve from the NBA office, starting center Kendrick Perkins will miss Game 6 after compiling seven technical fouls in the playoffs."

Of the Davis injury, I found this quote from the article interesting -

"I know he blacked out on the floor," Rivers said of Davis. "I was just trying to get him back down on offense at the time. And Marquis, same thing. He blacked out as well. Lots of elbows."

Wow coach, so you knew at one point your player(s) was/were unconscious, but all you were concerned with was getting them back in the play? Thanks for your concern! Wouldn't fly in HS - especially with the recent emphasis.

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[vbzebra]

My first thought was that the center official (Crawford) hit Perkins with the T. Perkins was walking away from Rush, who was the trail, but he was walking right at Crawford. My first thought was that Crawford whacked him for the antics, but I could never really see on any replay who actually gave the technical. Announcers said it was Rush, I assume it was him, but don't know for sure. Anyone know for sure it was Rush and not Crawford (the center official on that play)? Just curious...

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by vbzebra

Anyone know for sure it was Rush and not Crawford (the center official on that play)? Just curious...

This article says:

"With 36.1 seconds remaining in the half, referee Eddie Rush rang up Perkins a second time for what appeared to be some minor post-play grousing."

Another online source said:

"Then with 36.1 seconds left, Perkins and Dwight Howard were jostling in the post, and Perkins was whistled for his third personal. Perkins outstretched his arms and protested the call as he turned away from referee Eddie F. Rush, who apparently decided he went too far.

Rush called the technical, Perkins looked on with an expression of stunned disbelief, then slowly shuffled to the other end of the court and eventually through the tunnel to the Boston locker room."

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by grunewar

This article says:

"With 36.1 seconds remaining in the half, referee Eddie Rush rang up Perkins a second time for what appeared to be some minor post-play grousing."

Another online source said:

"Then with 36.1 seconds left, Perkins and Dwight Howard were jostling in the post, and Perkins was whistled for his third personal. Perkins outstretched his arms and protested the call as he turned away from referee Eddie F. Rush, who apparently decided he went too far.

Rush called the technical, Perkins looked on with an expression of stunned disbelief, then slowly shuffled to the other end of the court and eventually through the tunnel to the Boston locker room."

I love how none of this report what the player said as he was walking away. It is very obvious and one can read his lips in the video highlight. He deserved the T. Still I would bet that the NBE OFFICE will rescind it and let him play anyway. They want a show more than they wish to support their officials. Very sad.

Just in case there is any question about my criticisms, let me say they are directed at those in the league office, not the on-court officials. The league directors are the problem.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I love how none of this report what the player said as he was walking away. It is very obvious and one can read his lips in the video highlight. He deserved the T. Still I would bet that the NBE OFFICE will rescind it and let him play anyway. They want a show more than they wish to support their officials. Very sad.

Just in case there is any question about my criticisms, let me say they are directed at those in the league office, not the on-court officials. The league directors are the problem.

Agreed, and it will only add fuel to the fire of opinion that NBA refs are incompetent. The league will be trading long term benefit for short term gain.

[MathReferee]

Originally Posted by vbzebra

Anyone know for sure it was Rush and not Crawford (the center official on that play)? Just curious...

Considering Rush reported the T to the table and you can see him start to whack him when the camera cuts away, then I am certain it was Rush.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by grunewar

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"I know he blacked out on the floor," Rivers said of Davis. "I was just trying to get him back down on offense at the time. And Marquis, same thing. He blacked out as well. Lots of elbows."

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Lots of elbows??? WTF is Doc talking about? Davis caught Howard's elbow on the nose when Howard was bringing his arm down in its natural motion on a shot. Daniels banged his face into Gortat's chest.

[CLH]

[QUOTE=AustinRef;678708]
Anyway, my thoughts...how good of a look to Eddie Rush have on the foul? From his angle I would think he would see the push, but he certainly signaled otherwise. He obviously did not realize that was the second T on Perkins as they did not eject him right away (where was the table crew on this one ). Does he let that go if he does know he had one already? It was an interesting sequence that I think is the first time I can remember a crew botching administration procedures, which leads me to think it caught everyone off guard.QUOTE]


How is it obvious he did not realize it was the 2nd T? A second technical foul does not need be accompanied by the "heave ho" signal. It's still just another technical foul. I'm sure the table crew was sitting somewhere courtside Why would you let something go just because you've already given one technical foul. There is nothing in our rules that say the 2nd T has to be any more eggregrious sp? than the first one. In fact, I feel if you let them keep pushing you past what you have established as your line, it only shows that you don't have to guts to "man up" and handle business. Also, what administration did they botch? There was a foul, a technical foul, they shot the T, then played on from the original foul. Sounds like they handled it pretty well. Every official in that game has worked the NBA Finals, I'm pretty sure they can handle a simple foul/technical sequence. I don't really understand your reasoning behind all this. Please expound

[MathReferee]

Originally Posted by CLH

I don't really understand your reasoning behind all this. Please expound

I based that off the fact that they shot the technical, then ejected Perkins from the game. Unless I am completely mistaken there. From what I saw, Rush signaled the foul, signaled the technical, then turned around as Crawford administered the free throw. Then it looked like Washington walked up to Rush and they realized it was the second T on Perkins, and then ejected him from the game. So, the sequence was telling me he was not aware it was his second, hence the comment about assistance from the table crew .

As far as a second T needing to be more egregious than the first, I completely agree with you that it should not matter at all. A T is a T, no matter what the end result. However, seeing that this is the NBA, it has always appeared to me that the threshold for behaviour that earns a T is much higher. There is also a perceived pressure from the league to keep players in the game during playoffs (hence why I believe the T(s) will be rescinded today). That's all I meant by that.

[WestfordRef]

The second technical was questionable, but, probably based on Perkins' reputation as a whiner, and maybe what he said, might have been deserved, even if he was walking away. BUT, It was the first T that was completely undeserved, as Perkins was trying to give a hand to help Pierce up, his hand slipped, and his elbow flew back...don't even think there waqs much contact, if any. Bad call...this is the T the league will rescind.