When does travel occur?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Players are smart, and this is one rule they tend to know.

Do they? What is the rule? Isn't that what we are debating now?

If it's really a dribble, he'll show you by continuing the dribble. If it's a pass, he'll show you by purposefully avoiding the ball; likely boxing out his opponent at the same time to give a teammate time to get to the pass.

In my opinion, the "passer" purposely avoiding the ball etc. is not what makes it a pass.

Let me change the play slightly.

A1 goes airborne for a shot, realizing it's about to get eaten by a young Dikembe, he throws the ball towards and empty corner of the court. He then proceeds to follow it, where for a few seconds, he's the only player in reach of the ball. You calling the violation if he doesn't touch it?

In this case, no. Throwing the ball toward an empty corner of the court bears no resemblance to the player simply dropping the ball to the floor.