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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 11:45am
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Who were the refs and who gave him the thumb????
The crew for the game was:

John Cahill
Mike Stuart
Michael Stephens

I do not know who whistled the T's.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 11:49am
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The crew for the game was:

John Cahill
Mike Stuart
Michael Stephens

I do not know who whistled the T's.
The information is out there, but I still ask why it matters. My assumptions:
1. If the guy who called the Ts is a long time official, I'll defer to his judgment and assume he had a good reason for being in the huddle. And Huggins should have known better.

2. If the guy who called the Ts is newer to the league, and a younger official, I'll defer to his judgment and assume Huggins was testing him. He passed.

Whether he needed to be in the huddle or not is not for me to judge, because I don't have all the information I would need to make that assessment.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 11:53am
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The information is out there, but I still ask why it matters. My assumptions:
1. If the guy who called the Ts is a long time official, I'll defer to his judgment and assume he had a good reason for being in the huddle. And Huggins should have known better.

2. If the guy who called the Ts is newer to the league, and a younger official, I'll defer to his judgment and assume Huggins was testing him. He passed.

Whether he needed to be in the huddle or not is not for me to judge, because I don't have all the information I would need to make that assessment.
John Adams doesn't like the official in the huddle (see the Andy Katz thread), but again I wonder why that really matters since Adams doesn't hire these guys to work in the Big East. Somebody should ask the commissioner of the Big East and he can say what's expected.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 12:15pm
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Unless we have talked to the officials, unless we know what was said or what was not said, I really think the reasons for the T are all speculation. We have no idea what the conversation was directly about or if it was about some other play that did not take place. It might have even been about a previous game. This is why I hate these so-called absolutes officials like to claim that are valid. He was probably in the huddle because the coach was trying to engage him. And if he was across the court coach Huggins still would have been yelling. Until we know for sure what was said I really think it is silly for those to claim this is how it should have happened. Because I can think of a few things if they were said to me I do not care that I am the one that gives both Ts. Giving Ts and the reason for them are personal. The rules do not say what is or what is not specifically a T in many situations. And when I hear people all the time claim that certain actions are flagrant on the spot, how the heck do any of us know what was said. Huggins has a history of flying off the handle and even was ejected in an NCAA Tournament game a few years back while at Cincinnati. All I have to do is look at the person involved and that tells me all I need to know.

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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 12:48pm
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The information is out there, but I still ask why it matters. My assumptions:
1. If the guy who called the Ts is a long time official, I'll defer to his judgment and assume he had a good reason for being in the huddle. And Huggins should have known better.

2. If the guy who called the Ts is newer to the league, and a younger official, I'll defer to his judgment and assume Huggins was testing him. He passed.

Whether he needed to be in the huddle or not is not for me to judge, because I don't have all the information I would need to make that assessment.
Mike Stuart called both "T"s. He's in his 14th. year of doing D1 ball and is on both the SEC and Big East staffs. He's worked in 10 straight NCAA tournaments before this year, and last year he did 4 rounds.

I'll also assume he's got a pretty good idea of what he's doing.
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