Bobby Huggins Ejection

[Judtech]

RUST Thanks. I obviously could/should have phrased it better. Not disagreeing with the T just thinking it could have been handled better.

[Welpe]

I would like to think an experienced D1 official wouldn't go into the team huddle without a good reason. Who knows? I've been wrong before and will be again.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by welpe

i would like to think an experienced d1 official wouldn't go into the team huddle without a good reason. Who knows? I've been wrong before and will be again.

+1

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I would like to think an experienced D1 official wouldn't go into the team huddle without a good reason. Who knows? I've been wrong before and will be again.

Yup, and they won't toss coaches without a good reason either. Not if they want to keep their job.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Not disagreeing with the T just thinking it could have been handled better.

And that's exactly what you fail to comprehend. You don't KNOW how it was handled. You weren't within listening distance and you aren't privy to anything factual that went on. You have no idea what was actually said or done by ANY of the involved parties. But notwithstanding your absolute lack of knowledge, you still insist that it could have been handled better.

And that's just wrong, whether you want to believe that or not.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

He just likes to dump on people for the fun of it.

Are we having fun yet.

[Judtech]

I am personally having a ball!! (pardon the pun!) As for JR he may just be upset b/c he missed Salisbury Steak nite at the home!
Since it was on TV, and there was video I have a VERY good idea what was done. Granted I don't have a rabbit eared black and white television set like JR may have, but the new fangled HD DVR, in color even, came in handy. Of course to turn the tables on JR how do we know that the officials in the game didn't go back to the locker room and say "Man, we could have handled that better." What if there were more officials than me and my band of merry/sad souls who saw that incident and said "How would I handle a situation like this"? While you may not agree, to me that is making officials BETTER. Having people THINK about what they would do when faced with certain situations is a GOOD thing. In fact I INSIST upon it! No one is getting thrown under the bus here. No one is berating the officials as Bad Officials. Obviously they are VERY GOOD. Tony D Tiger may even call them Grrreeaatt!
I am not sure how this is any different than comments on other missed violations, fouls, mechanics or any thing ELSE that is discussed on this board.

[Jurassic Referee]

Carry on carrying on, Judtech. Maybe someday you'll understand..... but I kinda doubt it. I'm done with it and you.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Even though I do agree with the point of his post that you had no basis to disagree with the T that was called, that is no reason to assume you'd sell out a partner or not back them up. He just likes to dump on people for the fun of it. Just ignore him. Rather than trying to understand what you meant or to educate you, he has more fun ridiculing and belittling you....it is his way of making himself feel more important.

And this would be YOUR way of feeling more important???

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And this would be YOUR way of feeling more important???

Are you even serious?

I don't dump all over someone because I disagree with them. It is far more productive and beneficial to have a dialog instead of an insult fest. Our new visitor was blindsided with vitriol for no good reason. That is simply not the way people should be treated.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Are you even serious?

I don't dump all over someone because I disagree with them. It is far more productive and beneficial to have a dialog instead of an insult fest. Our new visitor was blindsided with vitriol for no good reason. That is simply not the way people should be treated.

You dumped on JR because you disagree with him.

Disagree: JR engaged in dialog, visitor stuck to his guns, JR called him out. Did you read the entire thread? Seemed productive to me.

JMO.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Seemed productive to me.

No longer though.

Time to let this one die a natural death.

Opinion appreciated, Mike.

[Jay R]

I dump on you, you dump on me, somebody stands up for me. This could go on all day, and it does.

What can the average official (I'm very average) learn from this situation with Huggins?

1. It's good to have rules of thumb like not going to the team's huddle at the begining of a timeout and not having the same official give both Ts

2. Rules of thumb don't always apply. Sometimes you HAVE the give the coach or the player the boot right away

3. Nobody knows what exactly was said but everyone who saw the video came away with their perception. (I would like to know what Stuart was doing there in the first place but if it was Huggins who called him over, then so be it)

4. Some coaches (like Huggins) have a hard time restraining themselves. Whether the ejection was warranted or not, I don't know. But I do know that Huggins used the word "motherf***ker" when he was speaking to Cahill after the Ts. Hardly a class act.

We had an official in our area eject a coach on successive technical fouls earlier this year. The first T was for loudly objecting to a call. About 15 seconds later, the coach quietly commented that he would contact the league. He was gone. In my opinion, the official could have easily ignored the second comment because he was one of the only people in the gym who heard it. He felt the comment by the coach was undermining him. From an outsider's point of view, it appeared that this official was eager to hand out the second T.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jay R

We had an official in our area eject a coach on successive technical fouls earlier this year. The first T was for loudly objecting to a call. About 15 seconds later, the coach quietly commented that he would contact the league. He was gone. In my opinion, the official could have easily ignored the second comment because he was one of the only people in the gym who heard it. He felt the comment by the coach was undermining him. From an outdider's point of view, it appeared that this official was eager to hand out the second T.

To me, this 2nd T should be an easy call. No matter which way you look at it, he's threatening the official; he's also testing him to see if he has any stones. When I was in Iowa, a directive came from the state that explicitly said we were to toss a coach who threatened to rate us poorly.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

To me, this 2nd T should be an easy call. No matter which way you look at it, he's threatening the official; he's also testing him to see if he has any stones. When I was in Iowa, a directive came from the state that explicitly said we were to toss a coach who threatened to rate us poorly.

I agree. That deserves a ticket home.