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Old Fri Feb 05, 2010, 09:49pm
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How Would You Have Handled This?

This came up in my game tonight.

Girls' sophomore. Visitors are getting crushed. In the 4th quarter the V HC earns himself a T from me. A couple of trips down the floor later, I see the AC standing. She's not really doing anything other than standing.

As we go up the floor away from their bench I tell her to sit down. She couldn't have sat down any faster if you paid her.

At a time out, she comes up to me and asks me the rule.

Would you have T'd the V bench right there on the spot since the AC was standing? Or did I handle it the way you would have?
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Old Fri Feb 05, 2010, 09:53pm
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This came up in my game tonight.

Girls' sophomore. Visitors are getting crushed. In the 4th quarter the V HC earns himself a T from me. A couple of trips down the floor later, I see the AC standing. She's not really doing anything other than standing.

As we go up the floor away from their bench I tell her to sit down. She couldn't have sat down any faster if you paid her.

At a time out, she comes up to me and asks me the rule.

Would you have T'd the V bench right there on the spot since the AC was standing? Or did I handle it the way you would have?
Many of these younger (and older) assistant coaches don't know the rules as has been pointed out many times. I am sure that there are some who would advocate a technical foul in this situation. I think you handled the situation correctly. Had the coach been argumentative about your request, I can see a technical, here. In your situation, I think you did just fine.
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Old Fri Feb 05, 2010, 09:54pm
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Many of these younger (and older) assistant coaches don't know the rules as has been pointed out many times. I am sure that there are some who would advocate a technical foul in this situation. I think you handled the situation correctly. Had the coach been argumentative about your request, I can see a technical, here. In your situation, I think you did just fine.
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Old Fri Feb 05, 2010, 11:31pm
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Naw, good educational officating on your part averted the bad situation from getting worse, and the effect you desired was fulfilled. Good going!
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 12:56am
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This came up in my game tonight.

Girls' sophomore. Visitors are getting crushed. In the 4th quarter the V HC earns himself a T from me. A couple of trips down the floor later, I see the AC standing. She's not really doing anything other than standing.

As we go up the floor away from their bench I tell her to sit down. She couldn't have sat down any faster if you paid her.

At a time out, she comes up to me and asks me the rule.

Would you have T'd the V bench right there on the spot since the AC was standing? Or did I handle it the way you would have?
Just for clarification, the sophomore team had 2 AC's on the bench, the Varsity HC and the AC you asked to be seated?

Or is the Varsity HC the AC you are referring to?
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 01:00am
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Naw, good educational officating on your part averted the bad situation from getting worse, and the effect you desired was fulfilled. Good going!
Agreed. But still you need to be sure the AC and HC know that this is not acceptable. I would still warn the head coach that the AC must remain seated with mouth shut.
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 01:05am
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Agreed. But still you need to be sure the AC and HC know that this is not acceptable. I would still warn the head coach that the AC must remain seated with mouth shut.
What's the purpose of this? If the transgression being addressed is the AC standing why the added comment about keeping their mouth shut?
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 01:07am
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Just for clarification, the sophomore team had 2 AC's on the bench, the Varsity HC and the AC you asked to be seated?

Or is the Varsity HC the AC you are referring to?
I only noticed one assistant besides the head coach for the sophomore team. I couldn't tell ya who the varsity coach is for this school...first time I'd had them. S/he was probably with his/her team preparing to play.
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 01:09am
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I only noticed one assistant besides the head coach for the sophomore team. I couldn't tell ya who the varsity coach is for this school...first time I'd had them. S/he was probably with his/her team preparing to play.
Your OP says you gave a T to the "V HC".
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 01:12am
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Your OP says you gave a T to the "V HC".

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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 01:15am
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Thanks...thought I was crazy for a second.

So really, the T against the HC had nothing to do with the scenario. AC has no business standing. Directing the AC to be seated was the appropriate action by the OP, whether a T had been called earlier or not.
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 01:24am
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Thanks jar...

Let's say though that the outcome of the game is in doubt, does that change what you would do?
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 02:16am
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I would of handled the situation exactly as you did regardless of how close the score was. This is assuming the AC was not argumentative and sat down immediately.
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Old Sat Feb 06, 2010, 08:44am
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I would of handled the situation exactly as you did regardless of how close the score was. This is assuming the AC was not argumentative and sat down immediately.
+1

I phrase the warning as, "you need to stay seated," or "you can't be standing," so that if there's an issue later I can address it.

That is, I won't give an AC more than one warning, so I want the warning to be perfectly clear.
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Agreed. But still you need to be sure the AC and HC know that this is not acceptable. I would still warn the head coach that the AC must remain seated with mouth shut.
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What's the purpose of this? If the transgression being addressed is the AC standing why the added comment about keeping their mouth shut?
I agree with BNR, why inflame the situation?
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