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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 12:58pm
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Violation or no call.....

Boys varsity game. A1 is dribbling the ball up the court while under defensive pressure from B1. A1 gets his feet tangled up and begins to fall. A1 dives for the ball, gains possession and slides across the floor.

Travel? No call? Why?
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A1 lost control, can not travel without control.
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Did he regain possession while in the air or on the floor?

If in the air and then went to the floor, travel. If on the ground when he gains possession, no violation.
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Did he regain possession while in the air or on the floor?

If in the air and then went to the floor, travel. If on the ground when he gains possession, no violation.
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 06:36pm
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A1 dives for the ball, gains possession and slides across the floor.
based on your description above....yep!...travel
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based on your description above....yep!...travel
Only if you're interpreting it as having him gain possession prior to being on the floor, as stated above. Reading the original post, I can't tell if that was the case or not.
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 08:14pm
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Only if you're interpreting it as having him gain possession prior to being on the floor, as stated above. Reading the original post, I can't tell if that was the case or not.
I actually read the opposite of what he did, assuming the player gained possession on the floor.
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 10:51pm
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Only if you're interpreting it as having him gain possession prior to being on the floor, as stated above. Reading the original post, I can't tell if that was the case or not.
read the OP again....."A1 dives for the ball, gains possession and slides across the floor."...sounds to me like he DID gain possession and THEN slides across the floor....easy one...tweet...travel.
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 11:01pm
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read the OP again....."A1 dives for the ball, gains possession and slides across the floor."...sounds to me like he DID gain possession and THEN slides across the floor....easy one...tweet...travel.
As worded, I see it as vague. For the record, I agree with you. If he gained possession airborne, it's a travel.

If I can't tell which happened first as I'm watching, it's legal.
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Old Wed Feb 03, 2010, 11:55pm
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Sounds like your defining a travel as sliding across the floor with possession? Interesting part of the discussion here has to do with the slipperiness of the floor. Is that the player's fault? Being a relatively new, I have been pursuing this question with our varsity refs, and most won't call it. Standing up, Yes. Rolling over, yes. Sliding, no.
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Old Fri Feb 05, 2010, 10:21pm
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read the OP again....."A1 dives for the ball, gains possession and slides across the floor."...sounds to me like he DID gain possession and THEN slides across the floor....easy one...tweet...travel.
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As worded, I see it as vague. For the record, I agree with you. If he gained possession airborne, it's a travel.

If I can't tell which happened first as I'm watching, it's legal.
I was somewhat vague when describing the play because it was not clear that the player gained possession while airborne or on the floor. When a player is going for a loose ball, we tend to give the player the benefit of the doubt in terms of whether the player is airborne or already on the floor.

In order for me to call a violation or a foul, I MUST see the violation or foul. In this instance, I felt as though there was sufficient doubt. Therefore, I let the play go.
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Travel. Gained possession.
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