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Old Fri Dec 22, 2006, 12:06am
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Violation, Delay of Game, Technical, what is the call?

First half. Ten players counted and ready to play after a timeout. Official hands ball to A1, who makes the inbound pass to A2. As possession begins, A3 steps off the court and sits on the bench. B1 has a steal and is going the other way when C official picks up that Team A has only four players on the court.

Question. Is this a violation, or a violation and delay of game warning, or delay of game with a technical?

Since an official is aware of the problem and Team B had an advantage with an easy opportunity to score, should you allow Team B to finish that advantage?

In our situation, C killed the play and gave a technical to Team A. We discussed at halftime without conclusively coming to the proper procedure. What do you think?


Violations and Penalties
9.3.2 . . . A player shall not leave the floor for an unauthorized reason. PENALTY: (Section 3) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation (calling a violation negated the advantage and scoring opportunity for Team B).

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10.1.5e . . . Not having the court ready for play following any time-out after any team warning for delay (not applicable due to live ball with both teams ready and no warnings previously given for delay)

10.9 . . . Fail to have all players return to the court at approximately the same time following a time-out or intermission. (not applicable since live ball occurred with both teams ready)
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Old Fri Dec 22, 2006, 12:51am
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According to the rules you posted ... I would say violation, but tough to blow the whistle when the other team is about to try an uncontested layup.

Be interested to see what the vets post.
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Old Fri Dec 22, 2006, 01:15am
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let Team B finish it's play (I successful shot attempt I assume) and then penalize Team A (I'd go with a T).
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Old Fri Dec 22, 2006, 01:50am
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let Team B finish it's play (I successful shot attempt I assume) and then penalize Team A (I'd go with a T).
What is the T for?
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Old Fri Dec 22, 2006, 02:23am
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9.3.2 comment: Non-contact, away from the ball, illegal defensive violations specifically designed to stop the clock near the end of a period or take away a clear advantageous position by the offense should be temporarily ignored.
The defensive team should not benefit from the tactic. If time is not a factor, the defense should be penalized with the violation or a technical foul for unsporting behavior.

Hold the whistle, let B finish the play. Then call the violation, which will give B the ball back. The play described in the op sounds like confusion, as opposed to unsporting behavior.
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Old Fri Dec 22, 2006, 06:50am
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9.3.2 comment: Non-contact, away from the ball, illegal defensive violations specifically designed to stop the clock near the end of a period or take away a clear advantageous position by the offense should be temporarily ignored.
The defensive team should not benefit from the tactic. If time is not a factor, the defense should be penalized with the violation or a technical foul for unsporting behavior.

Hold the whistle, let B finish the play. Then call the violation, which will give B the ball back. The play described in the op sounds like confusion, as opposed to unsporting behavior.
That's correct. This is a new case book play. It was issued as an interp on the website last season when leaving the court was changed from a T to a violation.
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Old Fri Dec 22, 2006, 08:23am
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I don't think I'd have a T in this situation. A simple violation would do the trick, IMO.
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Old Fri Dec 22, 2006, 09:25am
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A violation only if B does not make the layup.
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Old Fri Dec 22, 2006, 02:21pm
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9.3.2 comment: Non-contact, away from the ball, illegal defensive violations specifically designed to stop the clock near the end of a period or take away a clear advantageous position by the offense should be temporarily ignored.
The defensive team should not benefit from the tactic. If time is not a factor, the defense should be penalized with the violation or a technical foul for unsporting behavior.

Hold the whistle, let B finish the play. Then call the violation, which will give B the ball back. The play described in the op sounds like confusion, as opposed to unsporting behavior.
I have been meaning to ask about the, "If time is not a factor...", part of this case for a while. Other than the expiration of a period or a game on ESPN at 9pm that I want to get home in time to watch, is there an instance when time could be a factor that affects this play?
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Old Fri Dec 22, 2006, 10:33pm
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A violation only if B does not make the layup.
Check your casebook.
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