Line violation

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I disagree. The designated throw-in spot is entirely OOB. If the thrower does not have one foot over the OOB area, then he does not have at least one foot on or over the designated throw-in spot. I'd call a violation.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

LEAVING DESIGNATED SPOT
7.6.3 SITUATION: RULING: Legal throw-in. It is
permissible for the thrower to move backward or forward within the 3-foot-wide
designated area without violating......

What do you think now?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

What do you think now?

I think that he can move both backward and forward just as I did before.
What I do not believe is that he can jump forward beyond the boundary line such that no part of his body is over the OOB area of the throw-in spot prior to releasing the ball on the throw-in pass.

The wording that you note is there to clarify that the thrower can back up and then return forward again if desired. It does not state that he can jump over the line.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I think that he can move both backward and forward just as I did before.
What I do not believe is that he can jump forward beyond the boundary line such that no part of his body is over the OOB area of the throw-in spot prior to releasing the ball on the throw-in pass.

The wording that you note is there to clarify that the thrower can back up and then return forward again if desired. It does not state that he can jump over the line.

It also does not state that he can't. The only stated limit to the throw-in spot is its 3 foot width.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

It also does not state that he can't. The only stated limit to the throw-in spot is its 3 foot width.

Don't overlook the restrictions imposed by these sentences:

"As long as the thrower maintains any portion of his/her body on or above the
3-foot designated-spot area while making the throw-in, the throw-in shall be
legal."

"The thrower must keep one foot on or over the spot until the ball is released."

Do you believe that the throw-in spot extends to the inbounds area of the court? Can a player legally make a throw-in from inbounds?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Don't overlook the restrictions imposed by these sentences:

"As long as the thrower maintains any portion of his/her body on or above the
3-foot designated-spot area while making the throw-in, the throw-in shall be
legal."

"The thrower must keep one foot on or over the spot until the ball is released."

Do you believe that the throw-in spot extends to the inbounds area of the court? Can a player legally make a throw-in from inbounds?

Right. The throw-in must be made from out of bounds. As long as he throws it before he comes down, he's still out of bounds. Meanwhile, he hasn't left the throw-in spot, because its only restriction is its three foot width.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Right. The throw-in must be made from out of bounds. As long as he throws it before he comes down, he's still out of bounds. Meanwhile, he hasn't left the throw-in spot, because its only restriction is its three foot width.

My point was that if he can't legally stand there and throw the ball, then he can't throw the ball from above that location either as he wouldn't be keeping a foot on or over the spot.

Please think about that for a bit and then post your thoughts tomorrow.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

My point was that if he can't legally stand there and throw the ball, then he can't throw the ball from above that location either as he wouldn't be keeping a foot on or over the spot.

Please think about that for a bit and then post your thoughts tomorrow.

My thoughts are that the whole point of the throw-in spot is that the thrower can't move along the line.