The case against two man

[Rich]

I guess I don't understand what you mean when you say "watch where you are running." I mean, you know you're supposed to look over your shoulder in 3-person, too, right?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I guess I don't understand what you mean when you say "watch where you are running." I mean, you know you're supposed to look over your shoulder in 3-person, too, right?

That is what I was thinking too.

[biggravy]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I guess I don't understand what you mean when you say "watch where you are running." I mean, you know you're supposed to look over your shoulder in 3-person, too, right?

Personally, in 3 man as T moving to L it seems there is much less pressure as I am usually ahead of the action. It's hard to explain I guess. In 3 man being T => L, I can usually get ahead of that play and am in less of a hurry. I've got the new T behind me picking up part of that action as it is right in front of him. In 2 man, I've only got my partner across the court. A loose ball comes out top and toward my line, I've got to be where I can see that action. That turns into a fast break and now I am right along side the players, squeezed between them and the benches. Make sense?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by biggravy

Personally, in 3 man as T moving to L it seems there is much less pressure as I am usually ahead of the action. It's hard to explain I guess. In 3 man being T => L, I can usually get ahead of that play and am in less of a hurry. I've got the new T behind me picking up part of that action as it is right in front of him. In 2 man, I've only got my partner across the court. A loose ball comes out top and toward my line, I've got to be where I can see that action. That turns into a fast break and now I am right along side the players, squeezed between them and the benches. Make sense?

Not really. I'm still not seeing how you can avoid looking over your shoulder while running down the court.

[FrankHtown]

In 2 person, the recommended position for T is about 6 feet above the arc. In 3 person, the recommended position for T is about 6 feet above the arc. (At least what I was taught)

Why do people think you run less in 3 person?

Also, $1400 a year in a school budget is peanuts.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

In 2 person, the recommended position for T is about 6 feet above the arc. In 3 person, the recommended position for T is about 6 feet above the arc. (At least what I was taught)

Why do people think you run less in 3 person?

Also, $1400 a year in a school budget is peanuts.

Depending on what you do in 3 Person, you do not have to sprint everywhere. Just being in the center position you do not move that much. I think you can get away with not running that much in a high school floor setting.

That being said, depending on the school I would think that $1400 is a little high. For one in many cases schools cannot play that many games at home. Maybe 10-12 games at the most. If you are paying $60 per official (one game of course) and they play 12 games at home (not including tournaments or other events that make schools money) that is only $720 extra dollars per season for another official. So the amount is minor if you value a better called game and what many schools claim is about "safety." I know a few schools in my area that did not play a single home game until January. And I doubt they will get to 10 games by season's end at home.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

In 2 person, the recommended position for T is about 6 feet above the arc. In 3 person, the recommended position for T is about 6 feet above the arc. (At least what I was taught)

Why do people think you run less in 3 person?

Also, $1400 a year in a school budget is peanuts.

Because you do. Anyone who works a considerable amount of both won't even try to pretend that it's no harder on the body working 2 than working 3.

To me, the biggest difference is you spend 1/3 of the game at C and you simply don't need to sprint nearly as much as a C. You don't have a play to beat down the floor and you use your eyes more than you use your legs.

[BktBallRef]

The NCHSAA mandates that all varsity contests are officiated by three officials, and have since 1991. Schools have no choice. Your state association needs to grow a pair.

Our local association also uses three man for all JV games as well and have done so since 2004. How else you can you train JV officials?

I agree with biggravy that it's much easier to look where you're going when running from T to L in 3 man. No, I do not look over my shoulder the entire time. If there's a play behind me, there's a C and a T. Rarely do I ever have to make a call going to L. It's my job to get to the end line and be ready for the play to come to me.

And yes, Rut and Rich are correct. You spend +/- a third of the game at C, where you're not sprinting to the other end as often. If you've got a team pressing full court, it's a walk from FT line to FT line. That's huge!

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I agree with biggravy that it's much easier to look where you're going when running from T to L in 3 man. No, I do not look over my shoulder the entire time. If there's a play behind me, there's a C and a T. Rarely do I ever have to make a call going to L. It's my job to get to the end line and be ready for the play to come to me.

But in the OP biggravy specifically mentioned a fast break. As new L in 3-man, you still have to look back over your shoulder for a fast break (assuming you're ahead of it), don't you?