Loudest partner yet

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

While you're an extension of the crew, you are not officials and you do not have the same authority officials have. An assistant coach is an extension of the coaching staff, but he does not have the same priveleges as the HC.

And if a timer ever approached me to discuss my partner's behavior or calls, I'd have a talk with the AD from that school the next morning.

For me it would be casual questioning, just to have a clearer understanding of what could/should be done differently from my POV, as well as the official's POV.

I never said have the same authority as the officials, those times I have mentioned something to the officials about something I have observed, I leave the final decision to them on how to act on what I'm talking about.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Wow. I can't even imagine a clock keeper being so annoying that you would......

Wait. Yes, I can.

Chseagle:

Please check definition of 'rhetorical question'.

(HINT:It is not a request for your inane comments)

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Chseagle:

Please check definition of 'rhetorical question'.

(HINT:It is not a request for your inane comments)

I am trying to have a better understanding of the duties besides what I have witnessed/observed.

How else can I have an understanding unless I ask questions or make comments?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I am trying to have a better understanding of the duties besides what I have witnessed/observed.

How else can I have an understanding unless I ask questions or make comments?

How's it coming with that previously mentioned idea for you to start your own discussion board with fellow table personnel as contributors? That would be a great place to start!

Now!

[just another ref]

No need to imagine anymore. All this is etched into my brain in lines of fire.

[representing]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Wow. I can't even imagine a clock keeper being so annoying that you would......

Wait. Yes, I can.

One time, I called a foul against the home team in a close game and the clock person gave me a "what the hell?" kind of look and dissented against me by waving his hand. I went over and quietly said "hey, don't do that to me again. You are part of the officiating crew and are supposed to be neutral. Keep your emotions and thoughts inside or I will have you removed and replaced by someone else." Didn't say a damn word to me for the rest of the game.

[biggravy]

Originally Posted by Upward ref

wonder if the guy can still work concessions after he got tossed ?

Nope! He already said he can't work concessions cuz he doesn't have his "food handler's card".

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by representing

One time, I called a foul against the home team in a close game and the clock person gave me a "what the hell?" kind of look and dissented against me by waving his hand. I went over and quietly said "hey, don't do that to me again. You are part of the officiating crew and are supposed to be neutral. Keep your emotions and thoughts inside or I will have you removed and replaced by someone else." Didn't say a damn word to me for the rest of the game.

I've removed a score keeper and clock operator from seperate games before.....NEXT!

I have neither the time nor desire to deal with "issues" during the game. Give me folks who are impartial, can check their agendas/attitudes at the door and pay attention - that's all I ask.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by chseagle

For me it would be casual questioning,...

Leading to a formal admonishment and subsequent toss...

Originally Posted by chseagle

.....a clearer understanding of what could/should be done differently ...as the official's POV...

Can't imagine anything, other than an earlier warning and toss.

Originally Posted by chseagle

...I leave the final decision to them on how to act on what I'm talking about.

Have you ever made it that far without getting tossed?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I am trying to have a better understanding of the duties besides what I have witnessed/observed.

Timer's Duties:

1) Start the clock. Always.

2) Stop the clock. In a reasonable period of time.

3) Answer specific questions about whether a shot was released or a foul was committed before the expiration of time. When asked by the referee.

4) STFU. Always.

[Chess Ref]

I had a hot mommy doing the scorebook at a local 7th/8th grade rec league. Her facial expressions were great. Big smiles when the fouls were on the other team and shaking head plus grimaces when they were on her son's team.

I know I should have said something, but the expressions were straight out of a well acted porno movie. The inner dog within me just enjoyed my scorekeeper.

I felt so ...dirty.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Timer's Duties:

1) Start the clock. Always.

2) Stop the clock. In a reasonable period of time.

3) Answer specific questions about whether a shot was released or a foul was committed before the expiration of time. When asked by the referee.

4) STFU. Always.

I always tell the timer before the game that if he forgets to start the clock, we'll yell at him, but if he forgets to stop it, we won't say anything.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Leading to a formal admonishment and subsequent toss...

Can't imagine anything, other than an earlier warning and toss.

Have you ever made it that far without getting tossed?

I haven't been tossed from table duties, as I've never given the officials any reason to toss me.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I haven't been tossed from table duties, as I've never given the officials any reason to toss me.

Then there are a few options to explain this.

1. You're coming across to the officials much differently than your words imply.
2. Officials there are taking way too much direction from the timer.
3. They're ignoring you. FWIW, "ignoring" can mean answering in platitudes because it's easier than telling you to drop it.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Then there are a few options to explain this.

1. You're coming across to the officials much differently than your words imply.
2. Officials there are taking way too much direction from the timer.
3. They're ignoring you. FWIW, "ignoring" can mean answering in platitudes because it's easier than telling you to drop it.

When I say stuff concerning rules/regulations, it doesn't happen every game, normally just one or two games a year. So that is something I'm not doing all the time.

I mention what I see as observations not anything else, as I leave it up to the officials to make the final decision on what action to take.