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Old Sat Jan 09, 2010, 02:01am
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In all likelihood, he would be kicked out of our association for such behavior.
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Old Sat Jan 09, 2010, 03:19am
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Cut his Bulls Off!

I had a situation that goes along with breaking the code of respecting the difficult job officials try to do. This happened 8 years ago, but I remember it very well. All the reffs in this situation were volunteering there time. This was a middle school tournament game and it was the final 7 seconds. It was a one point game at this point with blue leading. I whistled a block on the blue team which gave the red team two foul shots. Both shots were made, and red eventually won the game. My partner and I go into the reff room after the game and are shooting the breeze. In walks an official that had done a couple of games with me earlier that day already. He says to us, "man you guys really F*&%^$$ that game up." He then takes off his jersey, crosses his name off the next game that he was already signed up to officiate and stomps out of the room. Partner and I were in such shock that neither said a word until after he left. We found out later that his son was on the losing team. I'll guarantee you that he will never reff another game in that gym. He's been totally blackballed from our association.
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Old Sat Jan 09, 2010, 05:05am
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My State office cares. A few years ago there was a Football official who had refereed the State Final in early December. In late December he was overly vocal at a Basketball game when his child was playing. His behavior was reported to his association, the State got wind of it and stepped in and ordered a 1 year suspension.
My kind of state association. Good for them.
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Old Sat Jan 09, 2010, 09:22am
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1. Constant shouting is not acceptable fan behavior. Have game management deal with such behavior whenever it occurs.
2. If you happen to know that the offender is also an official, contact the secretary or assignors of the local association and alert them to the behavior. Discipline within the ranks is part of their job. I personally would not go to directly to the OHSAA with this one.
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Old Sat Jan 09, 2010, 10:58am
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While he is at games, he loves to bark and scream at calls (or no calls) made by officials on the floor. He has spoke up in meetings about what he does. He also asks about situations he sees and asks for clarification at said association meetings.

This to me is the saddest part, the Association already knows about this guy and he is still doing the same crappy things at games. If he spoke up in a meeting about a "situation" in one of my game I'm sure I would not be too civil in my response.
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Old Sat Jan 09, 2010, 03:47pm
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Make an example of this jack@ss... I ejected a fan last night, she tried to buffalo management by saying she was an official too and they let her back in. After a stern "talkin' too" by me, the administrator discovered the err of her ways and promptly escorted the fan out. I don't whether they are an official or not they have got to go. This is totally out of line, right or wrong, we hold officials to a higher standard than typical fans when they are watching a game. Give this guy the boot!
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Old Sat Jan 09, 2010, 05:22pm
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have him removed.

then you'll be the guy in your association with the guts to throw this bozo out of a game. I'm pretty sure your appreciation and respect within your association will go through the roof -- you'll be the guy that had the chutzpah to deal with this loser.
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Old Sat Jan 09, 2010, 06:45pm
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have him removed.

then you'll be the guy in your association with the guts to throw this bozo out of a game. I'm pretty sure your appreciation and respect within your association will go through the roof -- you'll be the guy that had the chutzpah to deal with this loser.
And you probably will not be the last. Someone has to be first.
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Thanks for the input guys. We have an association meeting Wednesday and I plan on bringing it up with the secretary. If this guy isn't in attendance I may bring it up for group discussion.
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Thanks for the input guys. We have an association meeting Wednesday and I plan on bringing it up with the secretary. If this guy isn't in attendance I may bring it up for group discussion.
That would be good even if he was there. He has embarrassed you.....
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1. Absolutely bring it up at the meeting; you could perhaps ask whether it's acceptable in your association to behave like this clown. You might want to be diplomatic.
2. I'd dump him even faster than a known varsity coach pulling the same sh1t during a JV game.
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You might want to be diplomatic.
Yeah, be diplomatic.....I have a "hypothetical situation" I was wondering how you guys would handle it.....
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Old Sat Jan 09, 2010, 08:33pm
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Yeah, be diplomatic.....I have a "hypothetical situation" I was wondering how you guys would handle it.....
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I absolutely would be diplomatic. I might even ignore him and ask it in a round-about way.

Such as:

"Say, I'm curious what opinions in this room are of other officials sitting in the stands and be overly vocal."

I don't know that I'd put him directly on the spot. I'll talk to the secretary and let him handle it. Or, I may personally walk up to the guy and just simply say that next time he's at a game I'm doing I'll eject him if he's riding me from the stands.
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I absolutely would be diplomatic. I might even ignore him and ask it in a round-about way.

Such as:

"Say, I'm curious what opinions in this room are of other officials sitting in the stands and be overly vocal."

I don't know that I'd put him directly on the spot. I'll talk to the secretary and let him handle it. Or, I may personally walk up to the guy and just simply say that next time he's at a game I'm doing I'll eject him if he's riding me from the stands.
That is like baiting a coach telling him one more word and it is a T. It should come as a shock to him not as something he prepares for.
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