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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 01:08pm
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Traveling is definitely an area on which I need to improve. I'm having a hard time picking it up as I'm trying not to be a ball watcher.

Do any of our vets have tips on how to be better on this?
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 01:22pm
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This may be part of the problem. Traveling, particularly by a post player, is often easier to see from farther away. It is not unusual for a travel to be seen by everybody except the official with the ball in his primary.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 07:01pm
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This may be part of the problem. Traveling, particularly by a post player, is often easier to see from farther away. It is not unusual for a travel to be seen by everybody except the official with the ball in his primary.
How true that one is.....I'm Lead. Team whipping passes around the 3 point arc, Comes into my primary ,as I start to turn to get on the ball, 2 post players start going at it. So understandably my attention is diverted and apparently we had a big old travel. Partner saw it but thought I had a reason for passing on it, so he passed. I told him I passed cause I didn't see it.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 07:11pm
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How true that one is.....I'm Lead. Team whipping passes around the 3 point arc, Comes into my primary ,as I start to turn to get on the ball, 2 post players start going at it. So understandably my attention is diverted and apparently we had a big old travel. Partner saw it but thought I had a reason for passing on it, so he passed. I told him I passed cause I didn't see it.
I'm lead, and there is post play, I'm looking upstairs. I expect my partners to grab the travels.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 07:05pm
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This may be part of the problem. Traveling, particularly by a post player, is often easier to see from farther away. It is not unusual for a travel to be seen by everybody except the official with the ball in his primary.
True of course, my reference in OP was primarily point or perimiter situations. Especially with no pressure.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 01:28pm
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Gosh, if it's in your primary, I hope your watching
Perhaps I misspoke. I am trying to officiate all of the action in my primary and not simply ball watch. I do pick up the player with the ball and try to officiate the defense. The traveling I have been told I'm missing is when a player catches the ball, establishes the pivot foot and moves that foot before releasing the dribble.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 01:49pm
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and don't call a travel when a player makes a fast move or a good/unusual post move unless it is. I've seen too many of those called. for me too many refs call a travel because IT looks like a travel.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 03:11pm
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Correctly calling traveling is just damn hard. My pet peeve is the inconsistency in calling obvious travels such as a hop (not a jump stop) before a jump shot, taking 2 steps back to position for a three and stepping after a jump stop. Getting these calls right is more a matter of officiating will rather than officiating skill.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 09:21pm
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Correctly calling traveling is just damn hard.
Agree. I think it's the hardest call to make correctly in basketball. Harder than the block/charge.
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 07:09pm
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and don't call a travel when a player makes a fast move or a good/unusual post move unless it is. I've seen too many of those called. for me too many refs call a travel because IT looks like a travel.
If it looks like a duck, walks like duck, quacks like duck..............
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If it looks like a duck, walks like duck, quacks like duck..............
What is the signal for a duck?
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 07:30am
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 07:32am
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 07:30am
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Old Fri Dec 04, 2009, 07:39pm
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and don't call a travel when a player makes a fast move or a good/unusual post move unless it is. I've seen too many of those called. for me too many refs call a travel because IT looks like a travel.
Oh I don't know. If it looks like a travel to me, it's a travel.
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