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Old Tue Nov 17, 2009, 05:24pm
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Situation: A makes a drive to the basket, jumps and releases the shot. Two whistles sound. Two fists go up. L appears to make the pc signal. C appears to make the block signal. C and L make brief eye contact. C reports the foul and they line up to shoot.

Coach B: But, wait! What did he call?

Nearest official: (shrugs) Nothing, I guess.


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Old Tue Nov 17, 2009, 05:46pm
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You skipped part of the story:

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Situation: A makes a drive to the basket, jumps and releases the shot. Two whistles sound. Two fists go up. L appears to make the pc signal. C appears to make the block signal. C and L make brief eye contact. C reports the foul and they line up to shoot.

Coach B: But, wait! What did he call?

Nearest official: (shrugs) Nothing, I guess.

Coach B: But I saw the other official call a PC! Can you bring him/her over here so I can ask?

Nearest official: No, we're going to shoot FT's now.

Coach B: Are you saying they did not signal a PC?

Nearest official: I didn't see it.

Later on, the tape clearly shows the L giving the PC signal. As it turns out, the player from A that drove the lane would've fouled out on that play, and that same player makes the game-winning shot a few moments later. Assignor calls both officials and asks first why there were 2 different calls, and second, why did you not report 2 fouls, like the rule states?

So, not quite
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Old Tue Nov 17, 2009, 07:48pm
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The big difference between the blarge and all OTHER conflicting opinions or "calls" is that the others have a clearly defined sole responsibility (line coverage), the two calls are not different opinions of the same contact, or one official has a call and the other has a no-call. All of these are easily resolved by defering to the official who has sole responsibility for the line or determining which of the two acts occurred first. As for the blarge, there are primaries and secondaries involved (even double coverage areas), not exclusive areas. The positions at which they occur can be in a spot where it could be considered either official's primary. Defering to one official over the other has about a 50% chance of being right.
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 03:44am
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Later on, the tape clearly shows the L giving the PC signal. As it turns out, the player from A that drove the lane would've fouled out on that play, and that same player makes the game-winning shot a few moments later.
But the tape also shows that the block was the correct call, so it would have been a shame had that player needlessly been charged with a foul.



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Assignor calls both officials and asks first why there were 2 different calls, and second, why did you not report 2 fouls, like the rule states?
There were not two calls. L made the PC signal by mistake.
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Old Wed Nov 18, 2009, 07:32am
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JAR: you don't have to change your mind, but you're not convincing anyone.

Everyone else: you're not convincing JAR.

We don't need to rehash this.
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