New FT 2 man mechanic

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Perhaps you don't fall into this category, but I think if you look at the main complaints about this new mechanic when it was first released, I think you'll find that's exactly what people were saying. That seemed to be the main issue with the majority of people who don't like it. Not everyone, but the majority who did complain.

I'm not sure people were complaining as much as asking for the rationale. I saw assumptions that it had to do with communicating with the coaches but I have yet to read that from the NFHS (maybe I just missed it). But assuming that is the rationale I personally don't see how it would enhance communication. On free throws the Trail is going to nowhere near one of the coaches, and in the 2nd half it's going to be the coach most likely looking for an answer to a question since his/her team just sent the opposing team to the free throw line.

I just prefer the old mechanic based on court vision. Of course some folks here have a heart attack if someone expresses a preference for something. If your thought process or logic is not the same as theirs then you can't possibly be a good official.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm not sure people were complaining as much as asking for the rationale. I saw assumptions that it had to do with communicating with the coaches but I have yet to read that from the NFHS (maybe I just missed it). But assuming that is the rationale I personally don't see how it would enhance communication. On free throws the Trail is going to nowhere near one of the coaches, and in the 2nd half it's going to be the coach most likely looking for an answer to a question since his team just sent the opposing team to the free throw line.

I just prefer the old mechanic based on court vision. Of course some folks here have a heart attack if someone says they have a preference for something. If your thought process is not the same as theirs then you can't possibly be a good official.

Maybe you're right about that. I recall seeing something from the NFHS about the rationale being better communication, but I can't find it now either.

I liked the old way better, too, but I don't mind the new way. I would much rather, if a coach did have something to say, that they said it to me quietly while I was near them, rather than yelling across the court. The only thing I really don't like about the new mechanic is that I have to turn my head to look for subs and they often seem to sneak them over to the table just after I turn my head back to the court.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Smitty

The only thing I really don't like about the new mechanic is that I have to turn my head to look for subs and they often seem to sneak them over to the table just after I turn my head back to the court.

Ain't it swell that the lead glances at the table before administering?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by mick

Ain't it swell that the lead glances at the table before administering?

It's sort of swell. I still feel like I missed something when I hear the lead's whistle blow to bring in subs after a made last free throw because I didn't see the subs. I feel like that is my responsibility and I don't like missing it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Smitty

It's sort of swell. I still feel like I missed something when I hear the lead's whistle blow to bring in subs after a made last free throw because I didn't see the subs. I feel like that is my responsibility and I don't like missing it.

The lead doesn't need to (and shouldn't, imo) whistle to bring in the subs. Just indicate to the trail that there are subs waiting. It's the same as in 3-person.

[constable]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Maybe you're right about that. I recall seeing something from the NFHS about the rationale being better communication, but I can't find it now either.

I liked the old way better, too, but I don't mind the new way. I would much rather, if a coach did have something to say, that they said it to me quietly while I was near them, rather than yelling across the court. The only thing I really don't like about the new mechanic is that I have to turn my head to look for subs and they often seem to sneak them over to the table just after I turn my head back to the court.

If a coach wants to yell and scream let them. A coach can get a T just as easily for saying something quietly when you're on the same side of the floor.

If a coach has a question and properly phrases it, they will get an answer at the appropriate time.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by constable

If a coach wants to yell and scream let them. A coach can get a T just as easily for saying something quietly when you're on the same side of the floor.

If a coach has a question and properly phrases it, they will get an answer at the appropriate time.

Interesting philosophy. I'm not necessarily talking about a T. Often the coach simply wants an explanation of the foul. "What did he do?". I prefer being next to him so I can explain rather than have him have to yell across the court.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Interesting philosophy. I'm not necessarily talking about a T. Often the coach simply wants an explanation of the foul. "What did he do?". I prefer being next to him so I can explain rather than have him have to yell across the court.

Many coaches used to beckon officials to their bench areas, and did not start yelling unless they were ignored.
A quick jog across the court took care of that.
However, as shown above, that sitch is now mostly moot.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mick

Many coaches used to beckon officials to their bench areas, and did not start yelling unless they were ignored.
A quick jog across the court took care of that.
However, as shown above, that sitch is now mostly moot.

Did they accompany the beckon with a "Here, Fido...."?

[mick]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Did they accompany the beckon with a "Here, Fido...."?

Nope.
You're the first.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by mick

Many coaches used to beckon officials to their bench areas, and did not start yelling unless they were ignored.
A quick jog across the court took care of that.
However, as shown above, that sitch is now mostly moot.

Now it will a quick jog to the backcourt. Nothing has changed except the direction the official would have to jog.