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Intentional Foul?
Late game fouling situation. A1 reaches for B1 as he's going by and grabs his jersey from behind. I call intentional foul. Coach didn't have a big problem with it but said "he fouled him before that."
That got me to thinking. If I had called a foul for , say, a whack on the arm and then the defender subsequently grabbed and yanked the jersey from behind, is it still an intentional foul? |
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The implied question here seems to be: should this be a make-up call?
If you correctly passed on the initial contact, then there's nothing to make up. If you missed a foul before, but you had a genuine intentional foul, call the IF. That said, merely grabbing the shirt is not necessarily an intentional foul. The crucial (relevant) concept is neutralizing an opponent's obvious advantage. And make-up calls are always a bad idea. Two wrongs...
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I had a game saturday when I wanted a Intentional called. My guard went by the defender and he reached out and grabbed the back of his jersey. The explanation I got was that its late in the game and he was just trying to foul. I left it at that. Oh well..we hit the two free throws went up 5 and won.
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By the book you would have a technical foul.
Rule 4.19.5 . . . A technical foul is: (c) An intentional or flagrant foul while the ball is dead, except a foul by an airborne shooter. I don't think he would have grab his shirt had the first foul been called.
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However, 4-19-1 Note addresses intentional and flagrant fouls after the ball has become dead. If you desire to call an intentional foul, by rule I believe it would be an intentional technical foul. |
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By the book you have an intentional (if anything).
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The orignal post asked if he had call a contact foul followed by an intentional grab of the jersey (intentional foul). The second foul would be a dead ball intentional foul which would result in a Technical foul.
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Does the subsequent action warrant an intentional foul? |
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wbrown got it right, well except for the (.) instead of (-) for rules references |
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Let me add some minor clarifications to my scenario.
Defender is trying to foul. With left hand he tries for a steal but whacks the kid across the arm. At almost the same time and in order to ensure he fouls the kid he uses his other arm to grab the jersey and yanks it - obvious intentional. I'm blowing the whistle for the first foul while the grab is taking place. No delay. Do I ignore the intentional and only call the arm grab? |
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