First Time Ever - T to start game

[Scratch85]

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Originally Posted by ranjo

Happened in a JV boys game last night -

JV game I'm not starting with the T. Let them fix it quickly and let it go. V game, nail him, but that's just me.

I try to treat JV games just like I do V games. Below that, I make a few exceptions. 99% of JV games are right before the V game, with V coaches on the bench and some players who will be participatiing in both games. I do not want to send mixed messages.

I also believe that intentionally not applying rules is a great way to forget how to apply those rules.

[dan74]

How do you report a pre-start T. Let's say a player dunks five minutes before the start or a coach makes a change to the book within ten minutes, how do you make the call?

Do you just verbalize it to the table and then to the coaches individually, or do you actually signal the T somewhere, like in front of the table or do you do so from the foul reporting area. Do you call the T right when the violation happens, or wait until the pre-game clock runs down to zero and then call it?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by dan74

How do you report a pre-start T. Let's say a player dunks five minutes before the start or a coach makes a change to the book within ten minutes, how do you make the call?

Do you just verbalize it to the table and then to the coaches individually, or do you actually signal the T somewhere, like in front of the table or do you do so from the foul reporting area. Do you call the T right when the violation happens, or wait until the pre-game clock runs down to zero and then call it?

You use the proper mechanic which is to take the stuffed dummy of the coach and brand a "T" on its forehead. You then string the dummy up by throwing a rope over the rear support behind that team's basket. Then report it to the table in pig-latin.

Then you try to find your meds.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by dan74

How do you report a pre-start T. Let's say a player dunks five minutes before the start or a coach makes a change to the book within ten minutes, how do you make the call?

Do you just verbalize it to the table and then to the coaches individually, or do you actually signal the T somewhere, like in front of the table or do you do so from the foul reporting area. Do you call the T right when the violation happens, or wait until the pre-game clock runs down to zero and then call it?

I had a kid hang on the rim in pre-game Saturday night. I escorted him to his coach and made him explain why we would be starting with a T. Then, I (we) made sure the books had it right and knew when and how to set the arrow, etc., and told the opposing coach that his team would start with FTs.

The announcer announced, "We're starting the game with FTs due to a technical foul on xxxx team during the pre-game."

On we went.

[steve33]

Coaching we've had two situations like this already this season, both handled differently. (btw, NJCAA-W game)

First game, official scorebook wasn't even at the table until 5 minutes before tip-off. Officials gave them (the home team) an Administrative technical foul for not having a book. Our best FT shooter wasn't starting that day, but was able to shoot the 2, and then go back to the bench. However, they still had a jump ball to start the game. Wasn't sure if you set the arrow or jump in NCAA rules, but it wasn't a big deal since we got to start the game up 2-0

Second game happened this weekend. The home team put 7 players in their book, and ended up playing 9. When we saw they were using a new player, we notified the officials and they said it was no big deal. Our HC got so upset he started going off. Luckily the officials did not T him up for his demonstration.

(BTW, these guys also waved off 5 three pointers because the 20'9" line is the "College" line and the 19'9" is the "High School" line.)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I had a kid hang on the rim in pre-game Saturday night. The announcer announced, "We're starting the game with FTs due to a technical foul on xxxx team during the pre-game."

I think it's a player technical foul, not a team technical foul?

NFHS Rule 10 Section 3 Player Technical: A player shall not:
ART. 3 Grasp either basket during the time of the officials’ jurisdiction, dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball prior to or during the game or during any intermission until jurisdiction of the officials has ended. This item applies to all team members.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I think it's a player technical foul, not a team technical foul?

Of course it is. That is how it was enforced.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by dan74

How do you report a pre-start T. Let's say a player dunks five minutes before the start or a coach makes a change to the book within ten minutes, how do you make the call?

Do you just verbalize it to the table and then to the coaches individually, or do you actually signal the T somewhere, like in front of the table or do you do so from the foul reporting area. Do you call the T right when the violation happens, or wait until the pre-game clock runs down to zero and then call it?

Read this:
http://forum.officiating.com/showpos...4&postcount=47