Cont. Clock Start After Time-Out on Free Throw

[flsh224]

In a continous clock situation, when should the clock start following a time-out which is followed by a free throw?

Is is like a regular situation or is when the ball is a the disposal of the thrower or is it when the time-out ends?

Thanks for the help.

[nine01c]

NFHS
The clock stops when the referee grants the TO. The fact that it was running before, or not, has no bearing on what comes next. So, everyone lines up for the shot(s). The clock will not start yet. If the last shot attempted hits the rim and misses, clock will start when ball is touched by a player (Trail ref will chop start clock). If the shot does not hit the rim (violation) or goes in, the ball will become a throw-in on the endline and the clock will start when the ball is touched by a player on the court (Lead ref will chop start clock).

In short, the free throw administration is always the same whether it follows a TO or not. I hope that's what you are asking.

[flsh224]

Not really I am talking about in a Mercy rule situation.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by flsh224
In a continous clock situation, when should the clock start following a time-out which is followed by a free throw?

Is is like a regular situation or is when the ball is a the disposal of the thrower or is it when the time-out ends?

Thanks for the help.

In our leagues that use a running clock, we treat a TO prior to a FT as we would in a regular game. The clock restarts when the throw-in is made.

[nine01c]

Originally posted by flsh224
Not really I am talking about in a Mercy rule situation.

What code uses a Mercy Rule? It would be helpful if posters stated which code they are referring to (NFHS, NCAA, NBA, home town rec league). Anyway, I am not familiar with a continuous clock situation so didn't relate that to a mercy rule.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by nine01c
What code uses a Mercy Rule?

NFHS, as adopted by state association.

[nine01c]

Just curious, but is it actually NFHS option? For example the "optional" coaches box is explained and described in the NFHS rule book Rule 1-13. My state uses it.

Massachusetts has several deviations from NFHS that the MIAA has chosen to modify on their own. As far as I know, there is no mention of these as being NFHS options. They are:
1) games are two 16 minute halves
2) five 60 second time outs per game
3) 30 second shot clock
4) no 10 second count in backcourt (girls only)
5) requires players wear mouthguards on court

I consider these as non-NFHS modifications that my state has taken liberty to use (their right to do so, I guess).
I suspect the Mercy Rule falls under the same category in states that use it. What are some other deviations states use that differ form NFHS?

[Mark Dexter]

The use of any sort of a mercy rule is an allowed state adoption (see 5-5-3 Note).

All of the other modifications are not NFHS options (with the possible exception of #2 - which could be due to electronic media timeouts (but I doubt that it is.))

[nine01c]

Thanks Mark:

Guess I never noticed the running clock since we don't use it and this is the first time I remember posts about it.
There are certainly games where it makes sense.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by nine01c
Just curious, but is it actually NFHS option?

I wouldn't have written it if it wasn't.

[tjones1]

If you are in Illinois, it's just like a regular situation.
Remember (in IL), only five things stop the clock:
1. Timeout
2. Technical Foul
3. Injured player
4. Disqualified player
5. Any other situation deemed by the official (Officials Timeout)

T Jones

[Edited by tjones1 on Jan 8th, 2005 at 05:40 PM]

[Mark Padgett]

In a running clock game, the clock should start following a timeout when the ball becomes live. The timeout is over at that point. This means that on a free throw, the clock starts when the ball is at the disposal of the shooter. On a throw-in, the clock starts when the ball is at the disposal of the inbounding team.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
In a running clock game, the clock should start following a timeout when the ball becomes live. The timeout is over at that point. This means that on a free throw, the clock starts when the ball is at the disposal of the shooter. On a throw-in, the clock starts when the ball is at the disposal of the inbounding team.

That's one interp. The other is that the "mercy rule" just limits the instances in which a clock stops. Once the clock is stopped, it starts as normal.

Since the states can put into effect whatever mercy rule they desire, they can also choose when the clock will restart.

[Stat-Man]

In Michigan the running clock rule applies in the third and fourth quarters and during free throws, the clock keeps running until the game reaches the 2:00 mark of the fourth quarter. Then, the clock is stopped for all free throws inside 2 minutes to go.