First Time Ever - T to start game

[Man In Blue]

Originally Posted by ranjo

Happened in a JV boys game last night -

As my partner and I go over to meet and greet the visiting coach, he is at the table and his scorer is erasing something in the book. We ask what he is doing, and he explains that he is changing his starters. We tell him that if he does that, it is a technical foul as is is way past the 10 minute mark. He responds with "Then just give us the technical because there's no way these guys are starting". He then asks if it is charged to him or just to the team and we tell him it is only a team foul and he still has use of his box.

We inform the home coach we are starting the game with a technical foul and then the visiting varsity coach comes over to tell us that its not right to start the game that way - That it had happened before this season and the officials let it go. We don't buy into his story and tell him two wrongs don't make a right.

So instead of a jump ball at center court, we award two free throws to the home team, give them the ball for a throw-in, set the arrow to the visitors, and continue the game.

Its one of those things you read about, but in all these years it is the first time I have seen or had it actually happen. You can only imagine how perplexed the spectators were, trying to figure out what was going on. I think all of us missed the anticipation of the jump ball going up!

How many of you have actually started with a technical for anything other than dunking in warm-ups?

Are you sure this is how you want to handle a JV game? I am a by the book kind of guy but this seems excessive to me. Especially if the coach wants to change starters to send a message to his team.

Varsity game I am all over this and access the T. Sub-varsity I am asking coach what's up?

In my part of the world sub-varsity is about getting kids on the court. Often there are different uniforms, possibly 2 number 5's etc. As long as the coach explains what is happening there should be a little slack.

I am not saying that I would pass on playing rules, etc but fashion police can take a back seat for common sense.

Besides what advantage did the coach gain?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Man In Blue

Are you sure this is how you want to handle a JV game? I am a by the book kind of guy but this seems excessive to me. Especially if the coach wants to change starters to send a message to his team.

Varsity game I am all over this and access the T. Sub-varsity I am asking coach what's up?

In my part of the world sub-varsity is about getting kids on the court. Often there are different uniforms, possibly 2 number 5's etc. As long as the coach explains what is happening there should be a little slack.

I am not saying that I would pass on playing rules, etc but fashion police can take a back seat for common sense.

And in Ranjo's game the JV coach had no problem with accepting the consequences of his actions. It only became a problem when the Varsity coach stuck his nose in where it didn't belong.

Besides what advantage did the coach gain?

In Ranjo's world JV basketball is very well organized and they are expected to follow the same rules as varsity. The VHSL does however allow an exception for the "home team must wear white" rule.

And when a coach changes his starters after the 10 minute mark we are now suppose to let it go if he is doing it to "send his team a message"?

[Man In Blue]

What is the intent of the rule?

I think it to stop coaches from making changes on starters up to the start of the game. A coach would be looking to find the best match ups. The rule also eliminates confusion at the table to start the game.

Again it maybe different parts of the country but here there is a big difference between varsity and sub-varsity.

[ranjo]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In Ranjo's world JV basketball is very well organized and they are expected to follow the same rules as varsity. The VHSL does however allow an exception for the "home team must wear white" rule.

Just to add a note, a few of our AAA JV boys teams are playing above the rim. When you throw it up, be prepared to run hard for 32 minutes. I would never turn back one of the JV boys games in our area.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by ranjo

Just to add a note, a few of our AAA JV boys teams are playing above the rim. When you throw it up, be prepared to run hard for 32 minutes. I would never turn back one of the JV boys games in our area.

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

Some of the bigger schools around here do, and especially during tournaments.

[refnrev]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

All of them around here do.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

Not just 8 minutes for JV but also for Freshmen in SoCal.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by deecee

Not just 8 minutes for JV but also for Freshmen in SoCal.

The same is true in NV.

[ranjo]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

JV boys & JV girls.

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by ranjo

JV boys & JV girls.

How it is here too.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You play 8 minute quarters for JV?

What do you play around there?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

What do you play around there?

Here in SC, it's 6-minute for everything but varsity. I actually miss that about Kansas, where all HS games were 8-minute, and MS were 6-minute. Six-minute games just seem so, well, short...

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

What do you play around there?

Indiana, 8 minutes Varsity, everything else 6 minutes.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

What do you play around there?

8 minutes: varsity

7 minutes: JV & frosh

6 minutes: MS