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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 03:02pm
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Running the endline after a made hoop
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This happened in a Christmas travel team tournament last week.
NHSF rules.
After a made hoop by Team B, player A-1 picks up the loose ball and steps out of bounds. He runs two steps or so behind the endline before passing to A-2 who has now stepped completely out of bounds next to him. A-2 drops the pass and then picks it up again and completes the throw in to A-3 inbounds.
Team B coach is calling for a violation saying that A-2 cannot drop and pick up the ball "like that". We play on and after the game I explain to him that A-2 has done nothing illegal and can do whatever behind the endline after a made hoop etc. as long as they (A-1, A-2) release the throw in within 5 seconds.
Can't find any precident in the rule/case book to back me up on this, but I'm sure I am correct..... am I??
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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 03:04pm
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Can't find any precident in the rule/case book to back me up on this, but I'm sure I am correct..... am I??
The fact that you couldn't find anything to back you up isn't relevant. The fact is, you can't find anything in there to back the coach up. If it's not illegal, it's legal.
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The fact that you couldn't find anything to back you up isn't relevant. The fact is, you can't find anything in there to back the coach up. If it's not illegal, it's not legal.
What he said... well sort of...

If it's not illegal, then it's legal.
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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 03:16pm
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If after a made basket a player picks up the ball, and is set to throw in but tosses the ball to the ref. Does the ref stop the count, throw the ball back? I saw that once and the coach wanted a violation but none was called and I didn't think any should have been.
A delay of game warning for a player that tosses to a ref and the ball bounces off so the player has to chase it. keep counting five seconds or pause? Or blow the whistle to stop the clock and no delay?
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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 03:18pm
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The play was perfectly legal. The coach was wrong. Big surprise.

A player may bounce the ball OOB prior to making the throw-in pass. What's the difference between purposely bouncing it and dropping it to the floor accidentally? In this case nothing.

9.2.2 SITUATION D: A1 dribbles the ball on floor on the out-of-bounds area before making a throw-in. RULING: Legal, a player may bounce the ball on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throw-in.
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Old Fri Jan 02, 2009, 03:21pm
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If after a made basket a player picks up the ball, and is set to throw in but tosses the ball to the ref. Does the ref stop the count, throw the ball back? I saw that once and the coach wanted a violation but none was called and I didn't think any should have been.
A delay of game warning for a player that tosses to a ref and the ball bounces off so the player has to chase it. keep counting five seconds or pause? Or blow the whistle to stop the clock and no delay?
Don't take this thread in that direction. Go put your comment in this thread:

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What he said... well sort of...

If it's not illegal, then it's legal.
Oops. I fixed it.
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Don't take this thread in that direction. Go put your comment in this thread:

End of game sitch
Better yet, read the thread first. You'll find every possible answer there.
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The fact that you couldn't find anything to back you up isn't relevant. The fact is, you can't find anything in there to back the coach up. If it's not illegal, it's legal.

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Are you talking logic lessons from Yogi Berra?

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This was recently posted on KS official newsletter web site.
Team B can roll the ball to each other, bounce pass it, dribble it. All are legal. Just have to make sure that the ball is released for throw in before 5 count is up.
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What he said... well sort of...

If it's not illegal, then it's legal.
TJ are you becoming the new grammar guy? Before long you'll be using really really big words like mbyron!
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TJ are you becoming the new grammar guy? Before long you'll be using really really big words like mbyron!
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The play was perfectly legal. The coach was wrong. Big surprise.

A player may bounce the ball OOB prior to making the throw-in pass. What's the difference between purposely bouncing it and dropping it to the floor accidentally? In this case nothing.

9.2.2 SITUATION D: A1 dribbles the ball on floor on the out-of-bounds area before making a throw-in. RULING: Legal, a player may bounce the ball on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throw-in.
Extra bit of info.
Can a player bounce pass to another player OOB after a made basket?

This is one that we batted around here for a few days, the answer was surprizing.

NO. The pass must be a direct pass to the teammate also OOB, not a bounce pass. This is from the NFHS, and our State R.I.

However, a player dribbling OOB is not a violation.

In case you all wanted to know.
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