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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 08:40am
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Tough time backing this one up

I have to go with Rut and Mark here.
your juristicion does not include the teams lockeroom - despite Nevada's post about using electronic media - that applies to the use of electronic media for coaching purposes specifically.
The Rant by a player or coach in a passage way was directed toward an offical, and there by punnishable.

While you "know" the comment was directed at/to you, you can not make a strong enough case IMO to justify the T. What if it is the visiting coach and he doesn't know the place has thin wall or that you are next door?

Handle it through the proper channels by filing a report - and in the second half if the coach opens his mouth in anyway that would reenforce those comments, let him have it.
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IMHO, you could go either way on this. There is ample justification for a T to start the second half. The comments were obviously directed at the officials, and the punishment would fit the crime.

However, I can also understand the reluctance to go that route. And it shouldn't be too difficult to find a suitably insignificant reason to award the idiot his T in the second half. If the coach wants to make an issue of it, let him know that if you have to file a report due to his ejection, there will be a very detailed recounting of the halftime diatribe.
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 11:02am
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IMHO, you could go either way on this. There is ample justification for a T to start the second half. The comments were obviously directed at the officials, and the punishment would fit the crime.

However, I can also understand the reluctance to go that route. And it shouldn't be too difficult to find a suitably insignificant reason to award the idiot his T in the second half. If the coach wants to make an issue of it, let him know that if you have to file a report due to his ejection, there will be a very detailed recounting of the halftime diatribe.
I might go this route, and here, we have to file a report on any T.
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A coach yelling at ½time might go on about the bad calls. That's just a difference of opinion.

But if s/he is yelling so much that people outside the change room can hear, such as fans, administrators, and especially the other team, etc, and the coach is going on about the refs are cheating or how they are homer refs, not calling a T is not doing your job.
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 11:20am
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I do like the idea of getting the game manager (especially if this is the AD) and telling him/her that this is the reason we'll be starting the second half with free throws and let him/her listen to the coach's rant.

One of my only two ejections in over 20 years was during my 5th or 6th year working a JV boys game. Coach got whacked in the first half and came after me in the hall during halftime. I told him that he was ejected and if I so much as saw him on the floor we would forfeit the game to the other team. He didn't return, but I wish it would've happened in front of some other people besides me and my partner.
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2008, 11:40am
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I wish it would've happened in front of some other people besides me and my partner.
My partners word is good enough for me. I'd rather not have a lot of people who might have bias around it makes it simpler.

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But if s/he is yelling so much that people outside the change room can hear, such as fans, administrators, and especially the other team, etc, and the coach is going on about the refs are cheating or how they are homer refs, not calling a T is not doing your job.
Everyone is saying deal with it, but in different ways.
I personally am going to let a coach rant and rave in their locker room all they want, if other people hear them they can complain.
I may fill out a report as to what the coach said etc, I may try to get an administrator but the odds are that it will be too late, if I hear it walking by or through the walls. But that is their locker room and if they want to act the fool - fine. Having said that - the coaches best course of action in the second half is to have a seat and coach the team, because they are at the end of the leash at that point. If I am filling out paperwork already - another paragraph or two about this idiot is no big deal.


I do not find anything that says I can go get a coach for what they say in their locker room in the rules or case plays.
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