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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 11:25am
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If she is closely guarded while she is holding the ball, she 5 second to get rid of the ball. If she is not closely guarded, she can stand there all day. This is a very simple rule in my opinion.
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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 11:26am
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Go easy. He seems new and with not much training.

He's learning.
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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 11:28am
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Go easy. He seems new and with not much training.

He's learning.
You must have gotten enough sleep last night.
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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 11:28am
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Go easy. He seems new and with not much training.

He's learning.
My bad, had a long night last night!!!!!
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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 11:41am
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I whistled her for 5 seconds after picking her dribble up. so it is legal for her to stand there, even though she used up her dribble, for however long until she is closely guarded? obviously when the defense comes out, she can only pass or shoot.
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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 11:50am
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I didn't mean any sarcasm. What part seemed sarcastic? I was just trying to point out a legit rule that contrasted with what a previous post-er witnessed...
The rule is not intended for anything close to holding the ball out by the division line while the defense plays a zone defense inside the three-point arc.

Happens a couple of times a year when, for whatever reason, both teams are "happy" with the current score + / - one last shot by the offense at the end of a period.
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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 12:04pm
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The rule is not intended for anything close to holding the ball out by the division line while the defense plays a zone defense inside the three-point arc.

Happens a couple of times a year when, for whatever reason, both teams are "happy" with the current score + / - one last shot by the offense at the end of a period.
Agreed, if the clock is running, it's not an "actionless contest" in my book.
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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 03:25pm
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I whistled her for 5 seconds after picking her dribble up. so it is legal for her to stand there, even though she used up her dribble, for however long until she is closely guarded? obviously when the defense comes out, she can only pass or shoot or request time-out.
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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 03:30pm
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Go easy. He seems new and with not much training.

He's learning.
Oh I see.

We're morons for using the word baseline but we should go easy on this guy.

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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 06:30pm
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There once was a rule that forced one team to create the action. I don't remember it completely, but I believe the team behind in the score had to force the action.
Correct, back in the early eighties.
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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 06:32pm
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Four/Four/Four: Legal ...

The closely guarded rule is in effect in frontcourt only, when a defender is within six feet of the ball handler. Up to three separate five-second counts may occur on the same ball handler, holding, dribbling, and holding. The count continues even if defenders switch. The five-second count ends when a dribbler gets his or her head and shoulders ahead of the defender.
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Old Fri Dec 19, 2008, 10:53pm
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If she's not closely guarded then no, you kicked it.

I had a playoff game where one team, who knew they'd get killed if they played 32 minutes of basketball, actually held the ball for 7 minutes of a quarter. No passes, just held the ball after the half court throw in. Perfectly legal.
Longest I have ever seen the ball held is 7:45. Box score that quarter was 2-0.
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Longest I have ever seen the ball held is 7:45. Box score that quarter was 2-0.
I've now got you beat - local holiday HS boy's tournament. One team felt the were going to be out-matched, so they got the opening tip and held the ball. Literally. Until they accidentally threw it away with only a minute or so left in the quarter. Still managed to hold the other team scoreless: score at halftime was 0-0. Final was 17-6. Yes, HS boy's varsity game.
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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 09:59am
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I've now got you beat - local holiday HS boy's tournament. One team felt the were going to be out-matched, so they got the opening tip and held the ball. Literally. Until they accidentally threw it away with only a minute or so left in the quarter. Still managed to hold the other team scoreless: score at halftime was 0-0. Final was 17-6. Yes, HS boy's varsity game.

How long was the game? 45 min-1 hour?
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I respectfully disagree. Wouldn't this fall under the "actionless contest" rule?
Ok, who is causing this to be an actionless contest - the O holding the ball or the D not playing any D? Hmmmmmmmmmmm
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