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[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Careful on your verbiage here. The throw-in doesn't actually have to occur for the arrow to switch. The arrow is switched when the AP throw-in is completed. The AP throw-in is completed when a legal throw-in is legally touched OR when the throw-in team violates.

You probably knew that, but talking about the throw-in being "over" is imprecise, and saying the arrow can't change because "there was no throw in" is confusing, at best.

I agree with CG.

The throw-in ENDS when the ball is legally touched inbounds or the throwing team violates. 4-42-5

His use of the word "over" is synonymous with the use of the word "ends."

BTW could you please give me an instance in which the throw-in does not occur, yet the arrow switches?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

BTW could you please give me an instance in which the throw-in does not occur, yet the arrow switches?

Between the 2nd and 3rd quarters.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Between the 2nd and 3rd quarters.

Hee-hee!! Much better than my answer above.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

His use of the word "over" is synonymous with the use of the word "ends."

I agree that's what he meant. But the rulebook never talks (to my knowledge) of a throw-in being "over", so that -- to me -- was kind of ambiguous. It could mean:

1) the throw-in ends, in the rulebook sense; or
2) a throw-in pass was touched legally.

I just wanted to clarify that the arrow can switch without #2 ever happening.

BTW could you please give me an instance in which the throw-in does not occur, yet the arrow switches?

When the throw-in team violates.

I understand that the throw-in does happen, in the rulebook sense. But there was no throw-in pass. That's the only point I was trying -- unsuccessfully -- to make.