Jump Ball then Technical

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You were right, in theory. Penalize in the order. Since the AP throwin was never completed, though, you should not switch the arrow.

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Yeah, you should not have changed the arrow. Did you actually administer an AP throw-in? No. So, no change in the arrow.

Live and learn.

(Did the elbow-thrower get thrown? IOW, did you consider an elbow to the head to be flagrant?)

Both of these guys are correct.

Another approach is let's say that the foul (technical) was after the AP thrower-in had the ball, but before the throw-in was completed. The foul is penalized, but the arrow is not reversed.

In this situation, the AP throw-in is "further along the throw-in process", but the arrow is not changed, so it should not be changed in your OP as well.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Both of these guys are correct.

Another approach is let's say that the foul (technical) was after the AP thrower-in had the ball, but before the throw-in was completed. The foul is penalized, but the arrow is not reversed.

In this situation, the AP throw-in is "further along the throw-in process", but the arrow is not changed, so it should not be changed in your OP as well.

I could be totally wrong here, but isn't the ball live once the thrower has the ball for a throw-in? Wouldn't that mean that the foul would have to be flagrant or intentional and couldn't be a technical since the ball wasn't dead?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I could be totally wrong here, but isn't the ball live once the thrower has the ball for a throw-in? Wouldn't that mean that the foul would have to be flagrant or intentional and couldn't be a technical since the ball wasn't dead?

I believe that by writing "foul (technical)" Jugs was allowing for either case.

Afterall, an individual could get a technical foul for some noncontact act before the throw-in ends. The foul doesn't have to be a personal foul; although that is certainly more likely, but not necessary.