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Tue Mar 22, 2005, 10:34pm
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Here's one for everyone: I was watching an AAU game last weekend and this is what happened. Jump ball to start game, A1 taps ball towards B's basket. A2 catches ball in stride takes one dribble, finger rolls a layup, that hits the back of rim and falls out. Everyone is yelling, so A2 realizes that he has shot at the wrong basket, so he grabs the ball and starts another dribble towards his own basket. What do we have and Why?
All players were confused as well as the officials.
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Tue Mar 22, 2005, 11:18pm
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By rule you could have a double dribble as soon as he caught the "rebound." However. In AAU, hit the whistle and give A the ball OOB clearly indicating who is going which way.
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Tue Mar 22, 2005, 11:26pm
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Tue Mar 22, 2005, 11:30pm
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Tony,
Remember that A2 is shooting at B's basket. Therefore, it is not a try. I'd call the double-dribble violation when he dribbles again. I know that throwing the ball off your opponent's backboard counts as a dribble, but I don't think that the ring is included. [Edited by Nevadaref on Mar 23rd, 2005 at 12:36 AM]
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Tue Mar 22, 2005, 11:44pm
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I just checked. There is no mention of the ring in the rule.
Here's the exact wording: RULE 4 - SECTION 4 BALL LOCATION, AT DISPOSAL ART. 5 . . . A ball which touches the front faces or edges of the backboard is treated the same as touching the floor inbounds, except that when the ball touches the thrower's backboard it does not constitute a part of a dribble.
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Wed Mar 23, 2005, 12:07am
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Thank you very much, I'll be here all weekend! Don't forget to tip your waitress!
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Wed Mar 23, 2005, 02:54am
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It's still an illegal second dribble when they dribble again.
The original post says they dribble once and then attempt a lay up. I suppose you can consider this an interrupted dribble, they then GRAB the rebound, which ends the dribble and then they dribble again.
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Wed Mar 23, 2005, 08:25am
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RULE 4 - SECTION 40 SHOOTING, TRY, TAP ART. 2 . . . A try for field goal is an attempt by a player to score two or three points by throwing the ball into a team's own basket. This play is a double dribble; it is just a matter of when. Tony and I are saying that bouncing the ball off the ring at the opponent's basket does not constitute a dribble. When the player catches the ball and dribbles again, that is a violation.
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Wed Mar 23, 2005, 08:32am
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Case 4.4.5. If the ball hits the opponent's backboard, it is considered the same as touching the floor. If player A ,in all that play, never touches the ball with both hands, he may continue dribbling, however, if he caught the "rebound" (remember, by rule, this is not a "try"), with both hands and restarted a dribble, it is a double dribble, for touching the ball simoultaneously with both hands during a dribble. You may play the ball off your own backboard (if you deem it a "try"), but the ball coming off the opponent's backboard is considered a continuation of a dribble.
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Wed Mar 23, 2005, 08:53am
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In any event, it is a violation and I disagree with snaqwells' comment to give the ball back to A (assuming the jumpers were lined up in the correct direction and A2 was the only one confused).
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Wed Mar 23, 2005, 08:59am
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I could agree with that Bob. The ball never hit the backboard, so we don't treat it as hitting the floor, so it is not a legal dribble. If the player moved his pivot foot during this fingerroll action and then recaught the ball, that could well fall under casebook play 4.15.4 Sit D part (a), which makes it an illegal dribble at that point.
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