End of game sitch

[Adam]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

no pro philosophy to it really.... just seems like an unprofessional way to handle the situation by showing up a KID or I would say make him look clueless but I would have to say it makes the official look more clueless than anything. I've never even seen a college official, or a HS official for that matter decline to catch and throw the ball back to the player, granted i'm a lot younger than you both so if you have seen it please let me know, besides you doing it yourself of course.

I don't really see much of an advantage gained here by doing this either and I don't believe gaining extra time to throw the ball in is relevant.

-It doesn't help the new offensive team if the new defensive team is pressing. It just gives the defense a chance to better set up their defensive press.

-If the defense isn't pressing... then what does it matter if he tosses it to you. He won't actually need that full extra 2 seconds it takes for him to toss the ball to you and you toss it right back.

But if you fill it is that pertinent, give the OFFENSIVE TEAM a Delay of Game. Weird and unusual... but if you think it is dead set necessary... by all means.

I've re-read this several times and if it comes off condescending i apologize as that is not my intent. just trying to get my point firmly placed.

It's obvious in this case why the player threw the ball to the official. To get a new 5 second count, and eat more time off the clock, thus allowing the the other team less opportunity to get the ball back and score. How do you not see this as an advantage; it's clearly an advantage not intended by the rules.

Your point is clear. I think you're wrong and I think you're missing the obvious advantage B1 is looking for in the OP.

BTW, I'm amending my 2nd option. Instead of bouncing it back to him, I might let it hit me and bounce straight down. The ref is part of the court. If I'm standing in bounds, it's a throwin and he better not touch it next.

B1 is an idiot on this play. No one will think I'm the idiot; everyone will know what the player was trying to do. How many times a season do you have a new offensive player throw you the ball after a made bucket?

I only see it in middle school and below; never at even the JV level. It's a bush league move, and I'm not going to be a party to it. If I do as you suggest and "suspend" my count, or worse, I'll look like a fool for falling for his little trick and giving them an extra 3 seconds (or more) to eat the clock up.

And please stop suggesting people give DOG warnings that are clearly not called for in the rules. The only good thing about that suggestion is that it would stop the clock, but you don't need a DOG warning for that.