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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 12:21pm
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Isn't it more important to show the punch at the desk in order to signal no FTs than to show the type of foul (block/push/etc)?

Is there something I'm missing as to why the desk needs to know if was a push or a grab?
You are communicating to more than just the table. I would make the case that is just as valuable to give the type of foul committed so that everyone knows what took place. The Team Control signal is to communicate a specific course of action after the foul.

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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 04:35pm
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You are communicating to more than just the table. I would make the case that is just as valuable to give the type of foul committed so that everyone knows what took place. The Team Control signal is to communicate a specific course of action after the foul.

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I hear what you're saying, but we don't do the same for a PCF. Why the distinction?
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 04:37pm
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I hear what you're saying, but we don't do the same for a PCF. Why the distinction?
We don't? I give the signal for a PC foul at the spot and at the table. Am I wrong?
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 04:54pm
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We don't? I give the signal for a PC foul at the spot and at the table. Am I wrong?
JRut is arguing that you should give the foul type at the table as well as the TC signal.

I'm asking why that is not done for PC foul.
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JRut is arguing that you should give the foul type at the table as well as the TC signal.

I'm asking why that is not done for PC foul.
That's what I get for only paying half-a$$ attention. I'll slowly back away now.
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 04:59pm
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JRut is arguing that you should give the foul type at the table as well as the TC signal.

I'm asking why that is not done for PC foul.
TC can be a hold, block, or push. FED wants that signal (which was all that was done before the 'punch' came along) included in the mechanic. Probably b/c the call is off-ball they want everyone to know what occurred to cause the foul.

PC has always its own signal and everybody eyes are already on that play, no further signal needed.
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 05:02pm
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PC has always its own signal and everybody eyes are already on that play, no further signal needed.
That, and 95.25% of the time, PC fouls are pushes or charges (with 4% holding and .75% elbowing)
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 06:13pm
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I hear what you're saying, but we don't do the same for a PCF. Why the distinction?
I am not really arguing anything. I am giving the most logical explanation I can think of for the differences. I could be wrong. It would not be the first time; it certainly would not be the last time.

PC foul is a foul with the player that is in control of the foul. There are not many distinctions you would need to make IMO. A Team Control foul could occur in many more situations and types of actions that result in fouls.

And honestly, who really cares why there is a distinction, just know there is one. In my opinion if you are really worried about this, you have other things to worry about. This is such a minor issue in the bigger picture. Just follow what the people you work for want you to do. I do not think there is really a right or wrong on this issue at all.

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