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Old Fri Oct 10, 2008, 11:18pm
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It seems that no official blew the ball dead prior to the scoring of the goal as instructed in the case book play. Without that happening, I don't see how the basket can be cancelled.
I submit that the official killing the play is a mental event, like the granting of the timeout requested by the airborne player, and takes place instantly upon realization of the circumstances, not when the air is put into the whistle.
How about that?
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Old Fri Oct 10, 2008, 11:27pm
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All I know is that you're already in a world of hurt by informing the players wrong information in a FT situation and one team is going to have to burn an arrow but now you're going to allow one team to take advantage of that mistake and score an uncontested two points and let it stand?
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Old Fri Oct 10, 2008, 11:39pm
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All I know is that you're already in a world of hurt by informing the players wrong information in a FT situation and one team is going to have to burn an arrow but now you're going to allow one team to take advantage of that mistake and score an uncontested two points and let it stand?
Not sure where a "world of hurt" starts and ends, but let's put it this way. You give wrong information and cause a team to burn an arrow, nobody will remember it tomorrow. If your mistake results in an uncontested basket, it is likely to be remembered for a loooong time.
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Old Sat Oct 11, 2008, 01:20am
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I submit that the official killing the play is a mental event, like the granting of the timeout requested by the airborne player, and takes place instantly upon realization of the circumstances, not when the air is put into the whistle.
How about that?
Nice try, but that's the way it works in soccer, not basketball.

The NFHS basketball rules very clearly spell out how the ball becomes dead in 6-7. One of those items is "...An official's whistle is blown."

It doesn't say that the official decides to sound the whistle.

Sorry, try again.
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Old Sat Oct 11, 2008, 11:20am
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I agree with Nevada, by rule, it's a tough sell to cancel the basket.
In practice, it would be a tougher sell (to my assigners) to let it stand.
In practice, I'm blowing my whistle when the ball is in the air off the rim; or, at the latest, as soon as a player has the ball and is making a move.
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Old Sun Oct 12, 2008, 01:52pm
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So, as I understand it, it is conceivable that we may one day read in a Nevada newspaper:

"The winning basket was allowed to score when the official sneezed, causing him to be a split second late whistling the play dead."
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