inadvertent whistle? pt. 2

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I'll answer. Who cares? I don't mean to be mean-spirited, but honestly, what do those questions have to do with the rule in question? Are we going to rule incorrectly on certain plays so that the stat lines make the players happy? Really?

It seems fairly clear that you are more familiar with the NBA ruleset than with the NFHS/NCAA rules. (And there's nothing wrong with that!! I'm not trying to put you down. I think I read that you work some of the minor leagues in pro ball, and maybe D-League?) In the NBA ruleset, I believe that team control would end in the initial scenario, regardless of whether the try was released or not. Am I correct about that? Any time the defender deflects the ball, it becomes a "loose ball" situation with no team control, right?

The point is, you can't allow yourself to use the pro rules in an NCAA game. Just like I can't allow myself to use the NCAA rules when working a high school game. What if I granted an extra full time-out to a team (without the technical foul) in the closing seconds of a high school game and said that it's better for the game to have 4 full time-outs? I'd get ripped to shreds, and rightly so. And while I think that Nevadaref's comments about being "dumb and full of . . ." are probably out of line, he made them because, in this particular case, either you don't know the rule or you seem inclined to simply ignore the proper rule.

If you're going to work NCAA or NFHS games, you owe it to the participants to know those rulesets and apply them correctly. On the plus side, you're here on this forum, hopefully to learn them better.

You're right about the pro rule, the ball does become a "loose" ball, which makes 10 times more sense to me, cause if we then have an inadvertent whistle then we can have a jump ball and everbody gets a fair shake at getting to have possession but in HS and college, you are screwing the other team over by saying the team who just "shot" it gets to retain possession.

I attempt not to use pro rules in my games, but it is what i know best so when I'm crew chief in my college games I ask for help from my crew and when i'm not CC I keep my mouth shut.

I will admit on this play that i brought up i was totally ignorant to the fact that the ball had to leave the player's hand. That seems ridiculous but it is what it is. I asked the question for a reason and received my answer. I'm not trying to argue it at all, it just irritates me that there are some insanely ridiculous non common sense rules out there. Thanks for the help. Maybe i won't screw it up next time.

I probably shouldn't be posting on here yet.... my birthday is tmrw and I still won't be able to rent a car!!