Why was my Stanford/UCLA post taken down?

[Gimlet25id]

I see a padlock in the very near future...

[lpbreeze]

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls. The holier than thou attitude here is ridiculous. yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win. I haven't been ripping refs in my earlier posts. I'm merely point out the consistency of the calls changed in the last few minutes.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls. The holier than thou attitude here is ridiculous. yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win. I haven't been ripping refs in my earlier posts. I'm merely point out the consistency of the calls changed in the last few minutes.

Nope. It's official. You don't get it and you likely never will.

[Gimlet25id]

Isn't there a saying? "You have to know when to hold em and know when to fold em" I think I'd be folding!!!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls.

You're not critiquing calls. If that's all you were doing, the response would be much more civil, even if we disagreed with you.

You're challenging the way the game was called. You're accusing the refs of letting their emotions get the better of them in a game.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls. The holier than thou attitude here is ridiculous. yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win. I haven't been ripping refs in my earlier posts. I'm merely point out the consistency of the calls changed in the last few minutes.

We know exactly what you're pointing out. Your posting history here has been pretty consistent also. You don't know enough to critique D1 officials and you will never understand what people here are trying to tell you either.

[lpbreeze]

Fine. take out the whole Stanford/UCLA part. I haven't been coming here after seeing a game and criticizing the refs.
Most of the time I would say the following is just perception and can occur with a team being more aggressive but it does HAPPEN and refs should be careful to watch out for it.

Have refs been caught up in the excitement of a game, especially one that is close, and made calls that were not consistent with how the game was being called before. YES!

Do refs get caught up when a team is on a roll and start favoring the team with momentum? Yes again. These are lessons I'm learning. These mistakes happen less with NCAA and NBA refs but they do happen and there is nothing wrong with pointing that out.

I think the block was clean and this isn't a great example but it helps to show what I'm saying
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow...&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

[Adam]

You have no evidence to back up your claim that refs "get caught up when a team is on a roll and start favoring the team with momentum."

That's called projecting.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You have no evidence to back up your claim that refs "get caught up when a team is on a roll and start favoring the team with momentum."

That's called projecting.

No no, this is projecting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-emQAsGMeQ

What he's doing is spewing.

[cmckenna]

Please provide specific examples to back up your claims. Please note the date of the game, who the teams were, who the officials were and where the box scores and statistics can be found to back up the claims.

I can claim that Big Foot walks through my back yard all the time but unless I have evidence to prove it, it ain't worth 2 5h!t5

[lpbreeze]

Whatever. Those two questions I posted are legitimate. If you disagree with the answers that is fine.
Perhaps because many of you haven't played in so long you are forgetting. But players, fan and coaches will answer Yes to both. In most instances I do think it is perception and they are wrong but it does HAPPEN.

[rockchalk jhawk]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Have refs been caught up in the excitement of a game, especially one that is close, and made calls that were not consistent with how the game was being called before. YES!

Does this perceived excitment usually change how the players are playing the game? 99% of the time yes. Does this require the game to be called differently? 99% of the time yes. Does this cause an amatuer official/fanboy to think that the officals are calling the game differently? I think you know where I'm going with that one...

If one team gets on the bad end of a 10-0 run, usually it's because something in their game has changed. Maybe they're not playing good defense, not moving their feet, and fouling. Maybe one team is sitting back in a zone of defense and attacking the bucket on offense, therefore not fouling much and drawing a bunch of fouls on the other end. Maybe you're perceiving this as officials calling the game "differently," rather than just doing their jobs.

You're not looking at the big picture, and probably not quite educated enough (in regards to officiating, I'm sure you're a smart guy that your mother is proud of) to be running your mouth like you have been today...

[jdw3018]

Perhaps I can help, Breeze. Here's a way you could have posted your questions that may have been received better:

"I was watching the Stanford/UCLA game last night, and replay showed there were a couple of calls that were questionable that went against Stanford. Obviously the officials have different angles and it's impossible to know exactly what they called at times. These are certainly excellent officials and I'm sure they felt very confident in their calls, and I don't know enough to critique their performance.

That said, it got me thinking about whether officials, as humans, can totally block out the emotion of the game. I've experienced times in my lower-level games where I, or where I've sensed my partners, have struggled to maintain consistency. I wonder if it's due to the emotion of a team going on a run, and/or the crowd.

What do you all do to keep emotions in check throughout the game and not get caught up in the excitement and exhilaration of the game? Do you think, even at high levels, that officials can be impacted by the emotion of the game?"

This question probably wouldn't be well-received by all - it's probably better asked without talking about the specific game at all, but it would have at least given the opportunity for real discussion. Instead you chose to accuse D-I officials of throwing a game because they got caught up in the emotion of the stronger team's run.

I hope this helps for all future posting. We stick together here, and have each others' backs when it comes to integrity and purpose.

Good luck to you.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Have refs been caught up in the excitement of a game, especially one that is close, and made calls that were not consistent with how the game was being called before. YES!

Do refs get caught up when a team is on a roll and start favoring the team with momentum? Yes again. These are lessons I'm learning. These mistakes happen less with NCAA and NBA refs but they do happen and there is nothing wrong with pointing that out.

I think the block was clean and this isn't a great example but it helps to show what I'm saying
that http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow...&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Sigh.....

As predicted, he used some fanboy blog to try and back up his nonsense.

Go away, fanboy. Shoo, shoo......

[Raymond]

breeze,

Is it possible for you to address this?

How about a thread where you discuss the 7 or 8 games this season where you determined the outcome and what you learned from it?