Subbing after made second free throw

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

I agree completely. I hate the sub after a made FT... SHould I really tell you how I feel about this?

I also agree. It's basically a mini-timeout that allows the defense to set up and prevent a quick play by a faster team.

[mutantducky]

Question on this older thread. When does the sub have to be at the table? Before the second ft is shot? Or if player makes the shot, does the sub have to get there before the ball is picked up by the other team.
I had the table sound the horn for a sub who got to the table right after the shot was made and I told him he couldn't come in.

[mick]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

Question on this older thread. When does the sub have to be at the table? Before the second ft is shot? Or if player makes the shot, does the sub have to get there before the ball is picked up by the other team.
I had the table sound the horn for a sub who got to the table right after the shot was made and I told him he couldn't come in.

It was a dead ball that did not require the sub to report before the warning buzzer.
Next time, let the sub in.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

Question on this older thread. When does the sub have to be at the table? Before the second ft is shot? Or if player makes the shot, does the sub have to get there before the ball is picked up by the other team.
I had the table sound the horn for a sub who got to the table right after the shot was made and I told him he couldn't come in.

The sub needs to report during the dead ball following the successful goal. According to 3-3-1d once the substitute reports, the scorer shall signal, "if, or as soon as, the ball is dead and the clock is stopped."

In your case, the clock was stopped and it seems that the scorer signalled while the ball was still dead. Therefore, you should have allowed the substitute to enter.

[OHBBREF]

When entry is at any time at any time other than between halves,and a substitue who is entitled and ready to enter reports to the scorers, the timer shall sound the gamr clock horn when (or as soon as) the ball is dead and time is stopped. Exception: see rule 3-4.6

d. If entry is at any time other than between quarters, and a substitute who is entitled and ready to enter reports to the scorer, the scorer shall use a sounding device or game horn, if, or as soon as, the ball is dead and the clock is stopped.

[ca_rumperee]

Originally Posted by Jack

This past friday in a California Interscolastic Federation Boys High School Playoff game the following occured.

Player of team A is at the line. After he makes his first free throw and has the ball again in preparation for his second free throw, team A coach sends a player to check in at scorers table.

Player shoots and makes the free throw. Ref immediatly blows whistle and takes the ball motions the sub in and waits till the defense is set then allows team B to inbound the ball. This happened over and over again allowing team A to set up their zone defense. The player that subbed in did not sub for the shooter.

Is this the correct proceedure?

Good strategy for pressing teams or for coaches looking to slooooow things down.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Jack

Player shoots and makes the free throw. Ref immediatly blows whistle and takes the ball motions the sub in and waits till the defense is set then allows team B to inbound the ball. This happened over and over again allowing team A to set up their zone defense.

Ya know, Jack, a zone defense is one of the easier things to set up. The only thing easier is setting up no defense.