Subbing after made second free throw

[mick]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

Question on this older thread. When does the sub have to be at the table? Before the second ft is shot? Or if player makes the shot, does the sub have to get there before the ball is picked up by the other team.
I had the table sound the horn for a sub who got to the table right after the shot was made and I told him he couldn't come in.

It was a dead ball that did not require the sub to report before the warning buzzer.
Next time, let the sub in.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Hey, we have the Whalers. Wait a minute. No, we don't anymore. Never mind.

Ah, fond memories...I can still recall that snappy tune whenever they scored a goal.

They really brought down the house when they played in the Hartford Civic Center (or at least the roof! Remember that? or was that when they still played in Springfield?)

[BillyMac]

I got this one wrong on the 2008-09 IAABO Refresher Exam. Not exactly the same situation as the recent posts on this thread, but it still deals with whether, or not, to let a substitute enter. We were told that B-6 had to be at the table before the official stops play in order to get into the game during that dead ball.

43. A-1 has the ball out of bounds for a throw in when the timer erroneously starts the clock and runs it for two seconds. The official notices that the clock is running and stops play. As the official is at the scorers table,
B-6 reports to replace B-5. The official puts the time back on the clock and allows B-6 to enter the game. Is the official correct?
43. No Rule 5 Section 10 Art 1; Rule 3 Section 3 Art 1d

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Wow. I'd never thought that I would see this posted, by an official, on this Forum. By a "fanboy", yes, official, no.

I was a big NBA fan back in the 1970's, Boston Celtics (Russel, Havelicek, Jones, Cousy, Howell), and New York Knicks (DeBusshere, Russell, Frasier, Bradley, Reed). I lost interest, and then gained back a little interest during the Bird, and Johnson era, but that was only for a short time. I can't stomach watching the NBA for more than a few minutes. It just ain't the same. Give me scholastic, or collegiate, ball any day. I guess I'm just a basketball snob.

I didn't know Frasier Crane played ball. Looks more like the white shadow to me

[Bad Zebra]

Nice to see you figgered out how to post pics!

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Nice to see you figgered out how to post pics!

I'll try and tone it down.........I wanted to post a pic of rut's game.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

Question on this older thread. When does the sub have to be at the table? Before the second ft is shot? Or if player makes the shot, does the sub have to get there before the ball is picked up by the other team.
I had the table sound the horn for a sub who got to the table right after the shot was made and I told him he couldn't come in.

The sub needs to report during the dead ball following the successful goal. According to 3-3-1d once the substitute reports, the scorer shall signal, "if, or as soon as, the ball is dead and the clock is stopped."

In your case, the clock was stopped and it seems that the scorer signalled while the ball was still dead. Therefore, you should have allowed the substitute to enter.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I got this one wrong on the 2008-09 IAABO Refresher Exam. Not exactly the same situation as the recent posts on this thread, but it still deals with whether, or not, to let a substitute enter. We were told that B-6 had to be at the table before the official stops play in order to get into the game during that dead ball.

43. A-1 has the ball out of bounds for a throw in when the timer erroneously starts the clock and runs it for two seconds. The official notices that the clock is running and stops play. As the official is at the scorers table,
B-6 reports to replace B-5. The official puts the time back on the clock and allows B-6 to enter the game. Is the official correct?
43. No Rule 5 Section 10 Art 1; Rule 3 Section 3 Art 1d

Billy, 3-3-1d reads:

If entry is at any time other than between quarters, and a subsitute who is entitled and ready to enter reports to the scorer, the timer shall use a sounding device or game horn, if, or as soon as, the ball is dead and the clock is stopped.

Note the word "if" in there. IOW, if the ball is dead and the clock is stopped, they can come right in. Whoever told you they had to be there before the ball became dead was, well, dead wrong.

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by crazy voyager

This is also legal in fiba, it wasn't a few years ago though when you only would be allowed to sub the shooter, now you can sub whoever you want after a 2nd made FT. I liked the old way actually...

But we don't allow subs or time outs between the first and second free throw.

Ciao

[OHBBREF]

When entry is at any time at any time other than between halves,and a substitue who is entitled and ready to enter reports to the scorers, the timer shall sound the gamr clock horn when (or as soon as) the ball is dead and time is stopped. Exception: see rule 3-4.6

d. If entry is at any time other than between quarters, and a substitute who is entitled and ready to enter reports to the scorer, the scorer shall use a sounding device or game horn, if, or as soon as, the ball is dead and the clock is stopped.