Subbing after made second free throw

[Jack]

This past friday in a California Interscolastic Federation Boys High School Playoff game the following occured.

Player of team A is at the line. After he makes his first free throw and has the ball again in preparation for his second free throw, team A coach sends a player to check in at scorers table.

Player shoots and makes the free throw. Ref immediatly blows whistle and takes the ball motions the sub in and waits till the defense is set then allows team B to inbound the ball. This happened over and over again allowing team A to set up their zone defense. The player that subbed in did not sub for the shooter.

Is this the correct proceedure?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Jack

This past friday in a California Interscolastic Federation Boys High School Playoff game the following occured.

Player of team A is at the line. After he makes his first free throw and has the ball again in preparation for his second free throw, team A coach sends a player to check in at scorers table.

Player shoots and makes the free throw. Ref immediatly blows whistle and takes the ball motions the sub in and waits till the defense is set then allows team B to inbound the ball. This happened over and over again allowing team A to set up their zone defense. The player that subbed in did not sub for the shooter.

Is this the correct proceedure?

Perfectly legal.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Jack

This past friday in a California Interscolastic Federation Boys High School Playoff game the following occured.

Player of team A is at the line. After he makes his first free throw and has the ball again in preparation for his second free throw, team A coach sends a player to check in at scorers table.

Player shoots and makes the free throw. Ref immediatly blows whistle and takes the ball motions the sub in and waits till the defense is set then allows team B to inbound the ball. This happened over and over again allowing team A to set up their zone defense. The player that subbed in did not sub for the shooter.

Is this the correct proceedure?

NFHS and NCAA rules allow this. NBA rules do not. I prefer the NBA rule for flow of the game.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I prefer the NBA rule for flow of the game.

Wow. I'd never thought that I would see this posted, by an official, on this Forum. By a "fanboy", yes, official, no.

I was a big NBA fan back in the 1970's, Boston Celtics (Russel, Havelicek, Jones, Cousy, Howell), and New York Knicks (DeBusshere, Russell, Frasier, Bradley, Reed). I lost interest, and then gained back a little interest during the Bird, and Johnson era, but that was only for a short time. I can't stomach watching the NBA for more than a few minutes. It just ain't the same. Give me scholastic, or collegiate, ball any day. I guess I'm just a basketball snob.

[mick]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I can't stomach watching the NBA for more than a few minutes.

That may help explain the number of NBA teams in Connecticut.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mick

That may help explain the number of NBA teams in Connecticut.

Hey, we have the Whalers. Wait a minute. No, we don't anymore. Never mind.

We have the Celtics for a few home games each season. Wait a minute. No, we don't anymore. Never mind.

Kraft is going to build a stadium in Hartford for the Patriots. Wait a minute. No, he changed his mind. Never mind.

Wait. I've got it. We have the WNBA Mohegan Suns. Nothing like watching a bunch of women playing basketball in the summer, at a casino. Wait a minute. Never mind.

Well the Boston Red Sox brought Wally the Green Monster, and the 2008 World Series trophy, to Hartford a few weeks ago.

Oh well. Never mind. Go Huskies.

[ca_rumperee]

Originally Posted by Jack

This past friday in a California Interscolastic Federation Boys High School Playoff game the following occured.

Player of team A is at the line. After he makes his first free throw and has the ball again in preparation for his second free throw, team A coach sends a player to check in at scorers table.

Player shoots and makes the free throw. Ref immediatly blows whistle and takes the ball motions the sub in and waits till the defense is set then allows team B to inbound the ball. This happened over and over again allowing team A to set up their zone defense. The player that subbed in did not sub for the shooter.

Is this the correct proceedure?

Good strategy for pressing teams or for coaches looking to slooooow things down.

[mick]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Oh well. Never mind. Go Huskies.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Jack

Player shoots and makes the free throw. Ref immediatly blows whistle and takes the ball motions the sub in and waits till the defense is set then allows team B to inbound the ball. This happened over and over again allowing team A to set up their zone defense.

Ya know, Jack, a zone defense is one of the easier things to set up. The only thing easier is setting up no defense.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mick

Hold your horses. I knew that I would come up with something.

The Hartford Dark Blues were a 19th century baseball team. The team was based in Hartford, Connecticut. They were a member of the National Association of Professional Base Ball Players in 1874 and 1875 and the National League in 1876 and 1877. Playing at the Hartford Ball Club Grounds, in 1876 they joined the National League as a charter member. The team's owner, Morgan G. Bulkeley, was also the first president of the National League. The team left Hartford and moved to Brooklyn, New York for the 1877 season to become the Brooklyn Hartfords. The team disbanded after the 1877 season.

I have fond memories of sitting at the Hartford Ball Club Grounds, sipping sarsaparilla, on a warm summer day, watching our Dark Blues. Those were the good old days.

[Kelvin green]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

NFHS and NCAA rules allow this. NBA rules do not. I prefer the NBA rule for flow of the game.

I agree completely. I hate the sub after a made FT... SHould I really tell you how I feel about this?

[Jack]

thanks to all - especially Nevadaref for the spelling/typing correction

[crazy voyager]

This is also legal in fiba, it wasn't a few years ago though when you only would be allowed to sub the shooter, now you can sub whoever you want after a 2nd made FT. I liked the old way acctually...

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

I agree completely. I hate the sub after a made FT... SHould I really tell you how I feel about this?

I also agree. It's basically a mini-timeout that allows the defense to set up and prevent a quick play by a faster team.

[mutantducky]

Question on this older thread. When does the sub have to be at the table? Before the second ft is shot? Or if player makes the shot, does the sub have to get there before the ball is picked up by the other team.
I had the table sound the horn for a sub who got to the table right after the shot was made and I told him he couldn't come in.