When does the count end?

[Ref in PA]

For an inbounds pass, the 5 second count ends on the release by the inbounder.

For a pass from backcourt to frontcourt, the 10 second count ends when the ball strikes something with frontcourt status, thus giving the ball frontcourt status (or the ball goes oob). The 10 second count ends when the ball achieves frontcourt status either by pass or by the dibbler getting both feet and the ball in the frontcourt.

Edited: Also the 10 second count begins when the ball is controled in backcourt. The clock should be started (chopped) when the ball is touched legally inbounds.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Ref in PA

or by the dibbler getting both feet and the ball in the frontcourt.

Did you mean the Diebler?

[Ref in PA]

Vanna can I buy and "R"?

Dribbler! (with apologies to the famous Jon Diebler).

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Ref in PA

Vanna can I buy and "R"?

Dribbler! (with apologies to the famous Jon Diebler).

Do you also want to buy an "R"? Nyork, nyork, nyork.

Hey - notice all the smiley faces.

[Ref in PA]

Maybe I should just give up on this thread.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Ref in PA

Maybe I should just give up on this thread.

Do you mean... oh wait - you spelled everything correctly. Take a cookie out of petty cash.

Again - note all the smiley faces. We're all just fiends here, er, I mean friends.

[kkullman9]

Originally Posted by Ref in PA

For an inbounds pass, the 5 second count ends on the release by the inbounder.

For a pass from backcourt to frontcourt, the 10 second count ends when the ball strikes something with frontcourt status, thus giving the ball frontcourt status (or the ball goes oob). The 10 second count ends when the ball achieves frontcourt status either by pass or by the dibbler getting both feet and the ball in the frontcourt.

Edited: Also the 10 second count begins when the ball is controled in backcourt. The clock should be started (chopped) when the ball is touched legally inbounds.

I believe Pennsylvania just changed this rule this year. The count now ends when the ball is touched.

[Ref in PA]

Originally Posted by kkullman9

I believe Pennsylvania just changed this rule this year. The count now ends when the ball is touched.

I have not been instructed that this is the case, neither is there an exception on the PIAA website as you have indicated above. So, I do NOT believe PA changed the rule this year, nor did the NFHS. I would double check your sources.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Ref in PA

I have not been instructed that this is the case, neither is there an exception on the PIAA website as you have indicated above. So, I do NOT believe PA changed the rule this year, nor did the NFHS. I would double check your sources.

He's just confused by the rule change that states that a throw-in now ends when legally touched. Of course, that has nothing to do with the five-second count. He's probably a newer official.