When does the count end?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by curtstrouth

When does a 5 second and 10 second count end?

1) At the end of 5 seconds.

2) At the end of 10 seconds.


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[ca_rumperee]

Originally Posted by curtstrouth

When does a 5 second and 10 second count end?

1. At the release of the pass by the passer

or

2. When the pass is legally touched on an inbounds pass or touched in the frontcourt

A 5-second count on inbounds play ends when the ball leaves the passers hands in the direction of the court.

A 10-second count in the back court ends when the ball is touched by a player in the front-court.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by ca_rumperee

A 10-second count in the back court ends when the ball is touched by a player in the front-court.

Oh? What if the ball hits in the frontcourt before it is touched by a player in the frontcourt?

Methinks you might want to sneak a peek at case book play 9.8SitB.

Or alternatively, maybe you can call it using advantage/disadvantage.

[BillyMac]

I seem to remember an IAABO Refresher Exam question, from about ten or fifteen years ago, that had a very unusual question. Please don't make me look back at all my old exams to find the correct wording of the question, and answer, but I went something like this.

During a designated spot throwin in the back court by A-1, the short pass just bounces on the court, in the backcourt, untouched by anyone for ...... I don't remember the rest of the question, but I remember that the question was silly because, in a real game, about nine players would be trying to get their hands on the ball as soon as possible. The Exam came after the NFHS changed from the five second count ending on the catch of the throwin, to the release of the throwin.

Do any IAABO members remember this question, its wording, or the given answer?

By the rules, in a hypothetical situation, what happens if nobody wants to pick up that ball. The thrower hasn't violated because the ball has been released in less than five seconds. The clock hasn't started, because it hasn't been touched inbounds. A ten second count hasn't started because there is no team control established. Hypothetically, by NFHS rules, how long can that ball stay there on the court?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

By the rules, in a hypothetical situation, what happens if nobody wants to pick up that ball. The thrower hasn't violated because the ball has been released in less than five seconds. The clock hasn't started, because it hasn't been touched inbounds. A ten second count hasn't started because there is no team control established. Hypothetically, by NFHS rules, how long can that ball stay there on the court?

Double Ts for "allowing the game to turn into an actionless contest." Go to POI (readminster the throw-in). If it happens again, terminate the game and call the assinger / conference / state, etc.

[mkiogima]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

During a designated spot throwin in the back court by A-1, the short pass just bounces on the court, in the backcourt, untouched by anyone for ...... I don't remember the rest of the question, but I remember that the question was silly because, in a real game, about nine players would be trying to get their hands on the ball as soon as possible.

I've seen this in a game before. The thrower rolled the ball right down the middle of the court and the person that it was being passed to walked with the ball all the way to half court before he picked it up. The thrower went sprinting down the court to get into position. I was trail on that play and even if I had been keeping a backcourt count they would have been fine.

That is a good point though about the five second count ending but when does then 10 count start?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by mkiogima

That is a good point though about the five second count ending but when does then 10 count start?

When the ball is controlled in the backcourt.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I seem to remember an IAABO Refresher Exam question, from about ten or fifteen years ago, that had a very unusual question. During a designated spot throwin in the back court by A-1, the short pass just bounces on the court, in the backcourt, untouched by anyone for ...... I don't remember the rest of the question, but I remember that the question was silly because, in a real game, about nine players would be trying to get their hands on the ball as soon as possible. The Exam came after the NFHS changed from the five second count ending on the catch of the throwin, to the release of the throwin. Do any IAABO members remember this question, its wording, or the given answer?

Yesterday I spent about an hour perusing IAABO Exams, and IAABO Refresher Exams, from the past 28 years, without finding this question. Do any of you veteran IAABO members remember this question? Can anybody locate the question? I do remember that this was the most ridiculous question to ever appear on an IAABO exam of any type.