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[BLydic]

Unfortunately a response to the OP's question regarding pre-game table talk included a suggestion that the scorer should notify the crew when a player has 4 fouls. Whether this information is useless or not seems somewhat of a personal preference. How the official gets this information might be what sours the whole discussion. Any kind of open communication with an official about the number of fouls a player has, unless it's his/her 5th, can not IMO be recommended. I can't give an example of how this would be detremental because I've never had anyone tell me that's the players 4th, but I can see where a coach from either side might not perceive this to be something we need to know.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by BLydic

...I can't give an example of how this would be detremental because I've never had anyone tell me that's the players 4th, but I can see where a coach from either side might not perceive this to be something we need to know.

A wise official once said "When you stop worrying about what the players, fans and coaches think, you'll start to become a better official".

In fact he said it in this thread.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

A wise official once said "When you stop worrying about what the players, fans and coaches think, you'll start to become a better official".

In fact he said it in this thread.

Same wise official also said this 4th foul information is totally useless.

Your point, taken.

However, I will never suggest a scorer tell me when a player has 4. I will know without being told. Then I won't have to worry and can start to become a better official.

[TD21]

Originally Posted by BLydic

Unfortunately a response to the OP's question regarding pre-game table talk included a suggestion that the scorer should notify the crew when a player has 4 fouls. Whether this information is useless or not seems somewhat of a personal preference. How the official gets this information might be what sours the whole discussion. Any kind of open communication with an official about the number of fouls a player has, unless it's his/her 5th, can not IMO be recommended. I can't give an example of how this would be detremental because I've never had anyone tell me that's the players 4th, but I can see where a coach from either side might not perceive this to be something we need to know.

Its on the freakin' score board for the whole gym to see!!!!!!!

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by TD21

Its on the freakin' score board for the whole gym to see!!!!!!!

Relax Francis.

My only point is about the direct verbal communication of the players 4th foul from the scorer to an official, okay? And that was when I was worried about the coaches perception. Which, btw, I am not doing any more so I can start to become a better official.

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by TD21

Its on the freakin' score board for the whole gym to see!!!!!!!

Oh yeah, I forgot that obvious way of knowing how many fouls a player has. Worked a gym a couple weeks ago where they had all the players numbers and fouls on the board for each team. With all those numbers, it looked like something you would see at the dog or horse track.