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Old Fri Dec 28, 2007, 03:22am
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If I am not mistaken Juggling Ref is the only one who said he likes to be notified by the table when a player has 4 fouls. The theory is that he will be prepared when the player picks up his 5th, and will not accidentally allow this disqualified player to remain in the game. He assures us that this information has no effect on the call itself. Fine, I take his word for all this and admire his good intention to go above and beyond and get everything right. First, what level of ball are we talking about here? You refer a couple of times to kids or teenagers as the scorekeepers. And here was the part that I found interesting:




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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
I found that there was a high number of cases (in my mind) where the ball would be put back into play with the fouling player with 5 fouls but this fact was not mentioned to the officials during the reporting phase. Instead, the 5th-foul information reached the officials during a later stoppage in play (not necessarily the next stoppage, but it often was), or worse: a buzzer sounded during a live ball.
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Originally Posted by NevadaRef
Seriously, if you want to keep track of the player fouls on your own for game awareness that's fine, but please don't involve the table crew.

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
Meh, it works for me and I've yet to see a table crew that can't handle the task. I am basically reminding them of the importance of passing this information to me.
Are you saying that you have yet to see the crew that can't handle the task of notifying about the 4th foul, yet you have seen a "high number of cases" where they failed to notify you of the 5th? Or did I take something out of context?
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