On the Floor, et al

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Or man-to-man defense.

MTD, Sr.

That one doesn't bother me, because it doesn't claim to refer to me!

[Adam]

Oh, I don't know, Juulie. I hear "man to man" or "pick up your man" all the time in girls' games. Often times, these phrases come from Moms in the stands or female coaches.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Oh, I don't know, Juulie. I hear "man to man" or "pick up your man" all the time in girls' games. Often times, these phrases come from Moms in the stands or female coaches.

Many years ago, some big name college women's coach on tv said, "We play man-to-man defense. Person-to-person is a telephone call."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Many years ago, some big name college women's coach...."

That narrows it down to about, what three?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That narrows it down to about, what three?

I was being diplomatic. I don't know who said it, but I think it was a college women's coach.

[Nevadaref]

"I've got..."
"Foul's on..."

"Walk"

"baseline"

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

"I've got..."
"Foul's on..."

"Walk"

"baseline"

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Then there's, "Coach, feel free to ask us questions during the game, we'll be happy to answer them."

I agree with both of these. I will also add:

"That way", "going down", "stay here" - none of these are colors

[Corndog89]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

"I've got..."

That is one of my personal worst habits. I say it at least 2-3 times a game and wanna slap myself everytime I say it...the game is not about me! Gotta focus more on that one.

Although the rules/case/mechanics books use specific terminology, if the communication is clear, then I don't have much problem with trite or not-quite-exact terminology. Some, such as "reach" or "over-the-back", need to be avoided because they perpetuate myths/misunderstandings of the rules. I've had good partners who I respected use them in reporting fouls because they said it let the coaches know what the foul was...arrrgggghhhhh.

But terms like "on the floor" or "baseline" or even something as inane as "relax on the first shot" communicate a clear message to players, partners, and coaches. For example, I would certainly prefer my partner clearly state a foul occured "on the floor" then not comunicate anything at all (whether verbal or non-verbal), leaving me (and my other partner) wondering what we're to do next. This is not to say I necessarily condone such terminology when, as several people have pointed out, "no shot" correctly communicates the same thing. But I mostly want to know what the situation is as quickly as possible. And Chuck & JRut are right...be precise and correct at camp.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Oh, I don't know, Juulie. I hear "man to man" or "pick up your man" all the time in girls' games. Often times, these phrases come from Moms in the stands or female coaches.

Right. That's why they don't bother me. They don't bother the girl players, and they don't refer to the refs, so I don't have any right to worry about it. So I don't.

[Adam]

Fair enough.

You can know in the future that if I say "you guys," I'm not refering to you.

Also, if I say "3 man," it's a safe bet both of my partners were male (I do try to refrain from that term, though.)

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You can know in the future that if I say "you guys," I'm not refering to you.

Also, if I say "3 man," it's a safe bet both of my partners were male (I do try to refrain from that term, though.)

That's why we use "y'all;" it's much more PC.