On the Floor, et al

[Adam]

I got to thinking during my most recent game about things officials say that drive me nuts.

Aside from "reach" and "over the back," I mean.

First of all is "play the rim" or "wait til it hits the rim" on free throws. This is probably just me being an anal rules geek, but the fact that they can come in once it hits the backboard negates this phrase.

Then there's, "Coach, feel free to ask us questions during the game, we'll be happy to answer them."

Of course, there's "on the floor." Similar to "play the rim," it communicates a mistaken rule basis, but generally gets the right point across.

Anyone else have any others?

I ask to see if there's something I'm saying that drives other officials nuts.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Anyone else have any others?

You mean besides "3-man" and "you guys"? I can't think of much else...

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

You mean besides "3-man" and "you guys"? I can't think of much else...

Or man-to-man defense.

MTD, Sr.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Or man-to-man defense.

MTD, Sr.

That one doesn't bother me, because it doesn't claim to refer to me!

[Adam]

Oh, I don't know, Juulie. I hear "man to man" or "pick up your man" all the time in girls' games. Often times, these phrases come from Moms in the stands or female coaches.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Oh, I don't know, Juulie. I hear "man to man" or "pick up your man" all the time in girls' games. Often times, these phrases come from Moms in the stands or female coaches.

Many years ago, some big name college women's coach on tv said, "We play man-to-man defense. Person-to-person is a telephone call."

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Oh, I don't know, Juulie. I hear "man to man" or "pick up your man" all the time in girls' games. Often times, these phrases come from Moms in the stands or female coaches.

Right. That's why they don't bother me. They don't bother the girl players, and they don't refer to the refs, so I don't have any right to worry about it. So I don't.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

You mean besides "3-man" and "you guys"? I can't think of much else...

We know...we know

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

We know...we know

One she shows me she's not part of mankind, I'll stop saying 3-man. Until then....

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I got to thinking during my most recent game about things officials say that drive me nuts.

Then there's, "Coach, feel free to ask us questions during the game, we'll be happy to answer them."

Then I guess you would be "nuts" before we started our game when I am R.

I don't say "we'll be happy to answer them"...but, I do say "Coach, don't be afraid to let us know if you 'see something'...pause(usually get a grin or the like)...and I continue with "we'll let you know if it is too much."

This is part of the game that I personally enjoy...communicating with Coaches. Managing the game. Letting the Coach know that he has a say...but that ultimatley, the crew has the final word.

[mj]

"2 shots, relax on the first"...what if they don't want to relax?

Officials that point to the bench when reporting a foul.

Seeing a Trail park his buns 2 feet inside the division line and 2 feet inside the sideline and never moving.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mj

"2 shots, relax on the first"...what if they don't want to relax?

Officials that point to the bench when reporting a foul.

Seeing a Trail park his buns 2 feet inside the division line and 2 feet inside the sideline and never moving.

The pointing to the bench thing -- I'd pass out if a JV official around here DIDN'T do that.

My biggest annoyance is the official that has to report twice. Four-two-four-two. For God's sake, is it 42 or 24? Or 4242?

For free throws:

I picked up "two times" from some partner over the years.

Doesn't matter what level I'm working, I just say "two times," "one and one," or "one" and bounce the ball. I don't need to give instructions as if they're relevant. If they're having trouble lining up, I'll say "red down low" (which really confuses the teams if one's wearing blue and the other white ).

[mj]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The pointing to the bench thing -- I'd pass out if a JV official around here DIDN'T do that.

My biggest annoyance is the official that has to report twice. Four-two-four-two. For God's sake, is it 42 or 24? Or 4242?

For free throws:

I picked up "two times" from some partner over the years.

Doesn't matter what level I'm working, I just say "two times," "one and one," or "one" and bounce the ball. I don't need to give instructions as if they're relevant. If they're having trouble lining up, I'll say "red down low" (which really confuses the teams if one's wearing blue and the other white ).

"Two times guys/ladies" from me as well.

Agree 100% on the giving the number twice.

[HawkeyeCubP]

"That's a..." or "no - no - no" (preceeding a travel, etc.)

And FWIW, "on the floor" is listed in the W CCA manual as an appropriate thing to to when clarification is needed - I personally don't use it, still.

[BillyMac]

From Scrapper1: "A fouled player used to be awarded one free throw on ANY foul."

I've been officiating for a long time, twenty-seven years, and can recall two major changes in foul shooting; two foul shots for all technical fouls, instead of one foul shot; and the double bonus for the tenth foul of the half, instead of the continuation of the one-and-one until the end of the half.

My long time officiaiting has clouded my memory of what we did, in terms of foul shots, back in my high school days, in the early seventies.

What did we do? Please help. I know that there are some real old timers on this Forum.