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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 10:42am
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Wow, this thread has me kind of shocked. I'm a new ref, however, I couldn't disagree more with anyone who thinks this doesn't deserve a T. Unless we're talking grown men here, basketball is played by kids. A lot of those kids don't have proper role models as it is. If you don't teach sportsmanlike conduct then how will the kids learn it? Therefore, when a coach is so angry over a GAME of basketball that he needs to throw objects, curse, or use any other unsportsmen like activity in front of a bunch of kids, it's definitely time for a T. And in our league, any coach that does this would be facing a dismissal hearing as a coach.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 10:56am
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Wow, this thread has me kind of shocked. I'm a new ref, however, I couldn't disagree more with anyone who thinks this doesn't deserve a T. Unless we're talking grown men here, basketball is played by kids. A lot of those kids don't have proper role models as it is. If you don't teach sportsmanlike conduct then how will the kids learn it? Therefore, when a coach is so angry over a GAME of basketball that he needs to throw objects, curse, or use any other unsportsmen like activity in front of a bunch of kids, it's definitely time for a T. And in our league, any coach that does this would be facing a dismissal hearing as a coach.
I'm going to make the assumption that you are refereeing in a recreational league with very young children, and you would be absolutely correct. There's no place for that type of behavior in that environment.

Chances are, I'm not going to T a HS or College coach for slamming a clipboard because he/she is angry at his players, which is the case in the OP. And in my opinion, if I was an assignor and I got complaints to the fact that my officials were T'ing up coaches for yelling or demonstrating their anger towards their players by slamming a clipboard, chances are I would only book you to games of low intensity, like a recreational or middle school game. We have to remember that coaching at a certain level is a job and a livelihood for most coaches. We shouldn't be telling them how to coach and motivate, just as much as they shouldn't be telling us how to referee. JMO.
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Old Fri Nov 30, 2007, 01:03pm
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We have to remember that coaching at a certain level is a job and a livelihood for most coaches. We shouldn't be telling them how to coach and motivate, just as much as they shouldn't be telling us how to referee. JMO.
You also have to remember that coaches are expected to display certain levels of restraint and sporting behavior. Different officials may interpret these levels differently(surprise). Iow, the coach is taking his chances if he wants to engage in any sideline histrionics.

So, basically we sureasheck are telling a coach how to coach. We are telling coaches that they must coach following the NFHS guidelines and rules for sideline deportment. Different officials may interpret these guidelines and rules differently. As long as each official is consistent in his interpretation and enforcement, the coaches and players will adjust. At least, if they're smart, they will.

And as for coaches telling us how to officiate, once again they can try.... and some of them sureasheck do try....but they're taking their chances if they do so.
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