vent, vent, vent...

[chartrusepengui]

When a coach behaves like a 3 year old having a tantrum throwing down his clipboard - he does not deserve ANY explanation. He is not going to listen to you anyway - he is just trying to rattle you and put center of attention on him/herself instead of where it ought to be. Just like the 3 year old. I think you handled it efficently.

Later, at an appropriate time when both are a bit calmer a conversation might take place. But, lets face it - if I coach throws/slams anything - they know exactly why they got the T. This comes from experience as a JV coach, varsity coach and official.

[Ignats75]

No problem on the venting but I agree with your wife. You let the coach get to you. I don't think coaches have to pass a class and get 80% on a test to qualify to be a coach. Remember that. Don't assume that everyone knows the rules. I always recommend giving people the benefit of the doubt.

So, now ignorance IS a defense before the law? I say your are full of crapola and a real piece of work If a coach throws a clipboard onto the floor so that I can hear it, and its a reaction to a call, WHACK.

If he asked me why I tee'd him up, I would ask him, "Why do you think?"

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

If he asked me why I tee'd him up, I would ask him, "Why do you think?"

I hope you're just blowing smoke there, pardner.

[SWMOzebra]

In retrospect, I might be forced to agree with my wife that the second T came too quickly. Since I made the mistake of turning to address him (we were separated by 3-4') instead of letting my P handle as I should of, I'm afraid that I "trapped" myself into giving #2. I wouldn't say he was disrespectful, just sarcastic as he knew perfectly well why he got the call originally. He tried to make the case to game mgmt. that the clipboard "slipped" out of his hand and I over-reacted. However, since I was opposite of the table on trail, I saw the entire episode clearly.

It's true that 99% of his calls from the bench were directed at my P, who admittedly loathes to call techs. As a rookie, I always look to learn at least one thing from a new experience and this was certainly my first time to DQ a coach...I hope when faced with a situation like this again that I'll be more patient with the second.

Thanks again for letting me vent, I've learned a great deal from this board and appreciate the insight everyone offers!

[Ignats75]

As a rookie, I always look to learn at least one thing from a new experience and this was certainly my first time to DQ a coach...I hope when faced with a situation like this again that I'll be more patient with the second.

Thanks again for letting me vent, I've learned a great deal from this board and appreciate the insight everyone offers!

Everyone can be such a dangerous word.

[blindzebra]

The first T was a good one...although running over isn't, try to handle it like any other call.

You and your partner have calls to report, and a sequence of events that will be occurring, so back up, meet up and do so as far away from the coach as possible...at that point your partner makes his report, than you make yours.

Typically, I prefer the non-calling official handle the coach post-T, but in this case, you pretty much whacked him for your partner and his questions...as stupid as they are, he knows why he got it...are directed at you, and his biggest beef is still probably with your partner.

I'd have your partner administer the FTs for the T and I'd handle the coach:

Coach: Why did I get the T?

Me: Coach, you've been very vocal about calls all game, and when something like throwing a clip board is included, that is automatic...you lost your box and you'll need to take a seat.

Then walk away.

[JRutledge]

The coach's behavior probably should have been dealt with much earlier in the game. Waiting until the last 2 minutes means that if you allowed something to go on the rest of the game, the more and more a coach or player gets heated if in their minds nothing really changes. If it had been taken care of earlier, then when you give the coach a T, they would not be asking such a stupid question like, "What did I do to get a T?"

Peace

[fonzzy07]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

The first T was a good one...although running over isn't, try to handle it like any other call.

You and your partner have calls to report, and a sequence of events that will be occurring, so back up, meet up and do so as far away from the coach as possible...at that point your partner makes his report, than you make yours.

Typically, I prefer the non-calling official handle the coach post-T, but in this case, you pretty much whacked him for your partner and his questions...as stupid as they are, he knows why he got it...are directed at you, and his biggest beef is still probably with your partner.

I'd have your partner administer the FTs for the T and I'd handle the coach:

Coach: Why did I get the T?

Me: Coach, you've been very vocal about calls all game, and when something like throwing a clip board is included, that is automatic...you lost your box and you'll need to take a seat.

Then walk away.

Humm I do not know about this I go over this in my pregame but if i give a T I want one of my partners going over to inform the coach that he has the seatbelt. Am I wrong in this, no official has said they did not like that in a pregame. I just think that things are heated already why put fuel in the fire when I could just use a little preventive officiating. If he goes off on partner also then he deserves to be tossed and if he does get tossed he can't use the whole I am the one who had a problem with him, both me and partner did. Would anyone object to how I handle my T situation.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by fonzzy07

Would anyone object to how I handle my T situation.

I wouldn't object. I leave it up to the calling official. If s/he wants to stay there and take care of business, that's fine. If s/he wants to walk away, that's fine too. It depends on the official, the coach, prior history, the reason for the T, ...