Officials err in OT game

[Red_Killian]

What the heck was the table doing all game long? The article doesn't say which team was home but how could both books be off by this much???

From the article - "A play-by-play kept by the Post-Dispatch showed the final score should have actually been 64-62 in favor of Gateway Tech at the end of regulation."

So, cmmathews, what exactly was Mr Probst's error in interpreting the rules? If the officials had not approved the final score, came up with a 66-65 score, game over, no OT. The officials erred in playing the OT. The case play you reference has the error detected AFTER the OT had been started, not before.

[cmathews]

Originally Posted by Red_Killian

What the heck was the table doing all game long? The article doesn't say which team was home but how could both books be off by this much???

From the article - "A play-by-play kept by the Post-Dispatch showed the final score should have actually been 64-62 in favor of Gateway Tech at the end of regulation."

So, cmmathews, what exactly was Mr Probst's error in interpreting the rules? If the officials had not approved the final score, came up with a 66-65 score, game over, no OT. The officials erred in playing the OT. The case play you reference has the error detected AFTER the OT had been started, not before.

yep my bad, and appologies to Mr. Probst...

[ltllng]

NFHS Case Play:

2.11.10 Situation C: The scorer mistakenly credits a field goal by A1 to B1 and Team B in the second quarter. The regulation game ends with the score tied. During a time-out in overtime, the scorer detects the mistake and advises the referee.

Ruling: The referee will have the mistake corrected. The overtime will continue with the corrected score. Once the ball becomes live in the overtime, the overtime will be played even though a subsequent correction of an error or mistake changes the score. A bookkeeping mistake can be corrected at any time until the final score is approved.

As in this case the overtime was in progress.
Once you start the overtime, you must complete it even if the error was previous.

The situation in this game was that there was only one person keeping score and they did not keep the running score, only the players points.

The visiting team did not have a book. Why the Post-Dispatch came up with a totally different score is unknown. The officials conferred with the scorekeeper at a timeout before the game was over and were told the book matched the scoreboard.

We all know of situations where the table has a couple of people that don't pay any attention to the game. We just have to figure out how to deal with the errors and practice good game management. It is just part of the game and is not limited to just basketball. I always try to watch the scoreboard to make sure things are right. If not we ususally hear it from the fans yelling at us that the score is wrong.

[BayStateRef]

Let's get the facts straight.

From the article:

At the end of regulation, with the teams tied 65-65 and headed for overtime, the three referees met and determined that there were inconsistencies between the scoreboard and official scorebook.

The referees then gave Miller Career Academy another point, making the score 66-65, before beginning the four-minute overtime period.

Once the officials determined the score was 66-65 AND the overtime had not started, the game is over. That is what the state rules interpreter was saying -- and he is correct.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Let's get the facts straight.

From the article:

At the end of regulation, with the teams tied 65-65 and headed for overtime, the three referees met and determined that there were inconsistencies between the scoreboard and official scorebook.

The referees then gave Miller Career Academy another point, making the score 66-65, before beginning the four-minute overtime period.

Once the officials determined the score was 66-65 AND the overtime had not started, the game is over. That is what the state rules interpreter was saying -- and he is correct.

I concur. No overtime should have been played.

[Zoochy]

Another piece of information that was in a 2nd article. With lest than a minute remaining a TO is granted. At that point officials chat with the table to discuss the score (and possible TO's remaining). They are told tie game. Both coaches go with this information and plan on how their team should conduct themselves (ex:foul player and/or plan for last second shot). Now if the score is not tied, then each team would have different instructions.
All in all ... it was a big clusterf#$k.

[tomegun]

Isn't this bad reporting? Did the officials give one team another point or did they come to the conclusion that the book needed to be fixed and that is how the team got the point? It just sounds like the officials made this decision and the book didn't have anything to do with it.

[deecee]

tom -- you really think this reporter got it ALL right -- dont you think the officials had REASON to put the point back on.

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Isn't this bad reporting? Did the officials give one team another point or did they come to the conclusion that the book needed to be fixed and that is how the team got the point? It just sounds like the officials made this decision and the book didn't have anything to do with it.

I think the reporting is good enough to suggest strongly what happened.
From an earlier story:

There were several scoreboard errors Thursday that ended up awarding Miller Career Academy two extra points in regulation. With the game tied 65-65, Miller held the ball for the last shot and then missed a 3-pointer at the buzzer.

Before the four-minute overtime period began, the referees decided to award another point to host Miller Career Academy. So overtime started with Miller leading by one, 66-65.

The follow-up story says the officials had a problem reconciling the scorebook with the scoreboard because the scorebook did not have the running score.

From this, I gather the officials had the scorer count up all the points in the book. That made the score 66-65, and should have ended the game since the OT had not started.

We don't know why the visitors did not have a scorer, why the reporter had the score different (he had the visiting team ahead 64-62) or why there was no much confusion.