Designated Throw in Spot violation Rule 7-62

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Technical foul. A similar play appeared on ESPN a few years ago.

Actually, I don't think that was the play - the one on ESPN was the player leaving the court through the door, coming back in the other door, taking the pass in the corner and hiting the open shot. In other words, in the ESPN play the player leaves the court for an unauthorized reason, which is now a technical foul in NFHS. In my play, the player is supposed to be OOB, to make the throw-in, and also has the endline to run. So what would make the player's actions T-worthy, considering they're allowed to be OOB?

Ok, here's the reason for my original question - I think Jimgolf has a good point in considering a T for going into the stands to make the throw-in, for the same reason I believe my play could be considered a T as well. Here's my (twisted?) logic: we all agree the playing court is considered "inside the lines", because during normal play, all the players should be in-bounds. So how come we don't issue a T every time a player has a throw-in from OOB? Because they are now "authorized" to be OOB, and the playing court has expanded to include the area that player is allowed to be in, whether it's the 3-foot wide space for the spot throw-in, or the entire endline. If they step outside that playing area, it's a violation. If they go outside that area on purpose, with the intent to gain an unfair advantage and possibly deceive, than it's a T. In euby's play, the player didn't trip over the stands (violation), they purposely went into the stands to gain an unfair advantage. Since the coach admitted teaching that, I would think at least one T (and more than likely two) is in order.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Actually, I don't think that was the play - the one on ESPN was the player leaving the court through the door, coming back in the other door, taking the pass in the corner and hiting the open shot.

Correct. That's why I said the play was similar NOT the same.

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

In my play, the player is supposed to be OOB, to make the throw-in, and also has the endline to run. So what would make the player's actions T-worthy, considering they're allowed to be OOB?

He's authorized to be OOB, but not out of the gym!

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

If they go outside that area on purpose, with the intent to gain an unfair advantage and possibly deceive, than it's a T.

Agreed.

[M&M Guy]

Uh, oh. Nevada agrees with my reasoning.

Maybe I need to re-think?...

[Texas Aggie]

What is your ruling?

Depending on the sitch, I would have stopped play, put him back down on the floor and readministered the throw in, saying, "you can't get up on the stands."

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

Depending on the sitch, I would have stopped play, put him back down on the floor and readministered the throw in, saying, "you can't get up on the stands."

Do you do the same if he steps inbounds?

[Ref Daddy]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

Depending on the sitch, I would have stopped play, put him back down on the floor and readministered the throw in, saying, "you can't get up on the stands."

Depends on the grade level.

Player got an absolute advantage.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

In other words, in the ESPN play the player leaves the court for an unauthorized reason, which is now a technical foul in NFHS.

Oh?

Leaving the court for an unauthorized reason is a violation under NFHS rule 9-3-2. Delaying return after being legally OOB is a "T" under NFHS rule 10-3-3.

You knew that....which is probably why you went back and deleted the cite above.

Gotcha!

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Oh?

Leaving the court for an unauthorized reason is a violation under NFHS rule 9-3-2. Delaying return after being legally OOB is a "T" under NFHS rule 10-3-3.

You knew that.

Dang it, I knew that.

Thanks for the catch. I was so busy trying to make my point about the playing area, and just screwed up the actual penalty.

I can't wait to actually get back on the court so I can take my mind off baseball.