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[mcuban]

Well Mark, who the best officials and the worst officials are is very subjective point of view. Also the "best" cannot work every night and every game. Someone that is not the "best" is going to work some time.



MC -During the regular season, you are correct. During the finals ? Is it that demanding that the officials need more days off than the players ? My highest level is rec league, so i cant speak from experience , but Im guessing the best crew might be able to handle it. How does it work in the NCAA Finals ?




Yes I have Mark. I have also talked to some officials in the NBA. It is not all peaches and cream and it is also a game that many "amateur" officials like or even respect. Other than a few playoff games I cannot watch the NBA anymore.


MC - Now you are talking to where I can and do have an impact, what dont you like about the NBA game ?






This statement does not even make any sense. Either way it goes not everyone wants to be in the NBA.


MC -The statement reflects our practices and supports your comments about payscale and demand.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by mcuban

In this area, you have no idea what you are talking about. I got fined for saying that we should use the best refs in the playoffs, not use the playoffs as a means of promoting refs (37 of 60 refs officiated in the playoffs this year).

I have no idea what that means. I didn't address why you got fined.

Blame the refs. no. You dont see me blaming joe or danny crawford or javie Even Bavetta. They all called GREAT games. GREAT GREAT games.

Not everyone is up to their standards.

Thats a shame, because with the resourcesavailable to the NBA, we could get the rest of the staff far, far closer.

So it's only certain refs who are out to screw you, to cheat you, that are part of the conspiracy?

have you ever tried to make it to the NBA ? talked to those who have ?

I've talked to plenty of them. Several post here. What would you like to know?

Do you realize there are about 10x as many officials in the NBA that have called Belmont vs Winthrop as Duke vs UNC ? Why do you think that is ?

Im curious from to hear about it from someone in the business ?

Yes, what you say is true. But those that work Belmont vs. Winthrop are the newest officials in the league. And those officials aren;'t working the NBA FInals. Joe DeRosa worked in the SEC and the old Metro Conference before coming to the NBA. Joe Forte was an ACC and Final Four official. Violet Palmer worked Women's FInal Fours before coming to the NBA. Most of the guys who have been in the league for more than 20 years have their college careers in their distant past.

Veteran college officials have no desire to work in the NBA. Jess Kersey's son Brian is a top notch college official who works Duke-Carolina or Kentucky-LSU as much as he wants. But he has no desire to work the NBA. I guess that's the guys that you're wanting instead of who's being promoted but those guys aren't interested. October to June. No thanks. Go to a camp held by NBA officials. Young guys, not 20 year college vets, trying to make the NBA. NBDL, WNBA, that's who you're complaining about, those that you don't want in the playoffs.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

[mcuban]

So it's only certain refs who are out to screw you, to cheat you, that are part of the conspiracy?

MC- Where do you get this conspiracy nonsense ? You dont believe what sportswriters and columnists write do you ? If there was a conspiracy against me, we never would have made it past memphis let alone the Spurs...




I've talked to plenty of them. Several post here. What would you like to know?

MC- The more i know about the process to get into the NBA, the good and bad, the better I can work to improve it. BElieve it or not, the NBA top brass had no understanding about the camp process until I sat and explained it to them. It was completely foreign to them that the people running the camps were the same running the conferences that happened to be the same conferences that most of our new officials came from.

the more i learn, the better I can make the process. The better i can make the process, the better officials we get into the NBA.




Yes, what you say is true. But those that work Belmont vs. Winthrop are the newest officials in the league. And those officials aren;'t working the NBA FInals. Joe DeRosa worked in the SEC and the old Metro Conference before coming to the NBA. Joe Forte was an ACC and Final Four official. Violet Palmer worked Women's FInal Fours before coming to the NBA. Most of the guys who have been in the league for more than 20 years have their college careers in their distant past.


MC- Understood. The real reason is why. The 15 plus year guys came through a different process than the current process. The question is what is the best process and how do we find it and optimize it



Veteran college officials have no desire to work in the NBA. Jess Kersey's son Brian is a top notch college official who works Duke-Carolina or Kentucky-LSU as much as he wants. But he has no desire to work the NBA. I guess that's the guys that you're wanting instead of who's being promoted but those guys aren't interested. October to June. No thanks. Go to a camp held by NBA officials. Young guys, not 20 year college vets, trying to make the NBA. NBDL, WNBA, that's who you're complaining about, those that you don't want in the playoffs.


MC - Yep. (Read the article about Brian) i want the best of the best in the NBA, no matter what it takes to get them there. The same thing we try (and i know we arent perfect there either) with players. If Brian is one of the best, how do we recruit him and get him to want to officiate in the NBA. Maybe his insurance business is too good, but we should at least be in a position to have an open process to those who have worked and succeeded in high pressure situation