Situation with 5 seconds left

[Ref_ Fred]

I'm glad it was a spring league and not regular season, the head coach was sitting in the stand, he did make sure that I heard about it after the game. The end result was he got an L. IMO nothing that we( notice the we, not putting it on my partner) may have caused, but in his eyes, it was all the officials for blowing the call.

[JRutledge]

Fred,

I am going to assume that your partner did not see the time out request and leave it at that. Now unless you saw him look directly at the player and you believe he just did not grant the timeout after seeing the request, then that might be another issue. Just because he is closer does not mean he is more likely to see the request. He might have been too close and you were in a better spot to give a timeout.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Two things:

1. when you see a player/coach request a timeout in the closing seconds of a game, blow the whistle no matter where the player is. I don't believe "primary" areas were at all meant to apply to timeout requests.
2. In situations where you have a delayed whistle on a timeout request, I tell the other coach that I didn't want to blow my whistle inadvertantly and the request was made earlier but I needed to confirm that
   • it really was a timeout request
   • the team had player control of the ball at the time of the request
   • the ball was still dead at the time of the request
   • it was the coach and not some fan behind the coach

[Ref_ Fred]

I am going to assume that your partner did not see the time out request and leave it at that. Now unless you saw him look directly at the player and you believe he just did not grant the timeout after seeing the request, then that might be another issue.

It was my first time working with this official, But not only 5 feet away, he was jumping up and down in front of him. He may have blanked out. Like I have many times when in my earlier years.

Also, I may have had a more of perriphial view of the court.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Ref_ Fred

It was my first time working with this official, But not only 5 feet away, he was jumping up and down in front of him. He may have blanked out. Like I have many times when in my earlier years.

Also, I may have had a more of perriphial view of the court.

Maybe he just froze? Did you ask him? I think this is a situation where you should ask the official to why he did not grant the timeout. All we can do is speculate on reasons and give opinions (which at the end of the day mean nothing). Whether you worked with this guy or not should not be a factor. He might have not been very experienced and just did not know what to do. Also I feel the rule that has allowed coaches to call timeouts has made the occurrences of players calling timeouts rare. Maybe he did not know what to do in this kind of situation? Until you ask him, all we can do is speculate.

Peace

[Ref_ Fred]

when I asked my partner why he didn't call it. He said he didn't see it.

this was in one of my post!

I did ask during the time out. that was his reply. He didn't see it.

No problem As I mentioned many times on this thread. we live and die as a team. So I took the heat from the coach, but we handled it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Ref_ Fred

this was in one of my post!

I did ask during the time out. that was his reply. He didn't see it.

No problem As I mentioned many times on this thread. we live and die as a team. So I took the heat from the coach, but we handled it.

If your partner answered this question to you directly, what are you asking of us? All you can do is call what you see. You cannot make your partner do anything or call anything. It sounds like he just blew the call. It will not be the first time that happens and it definitely will not be the last. The best you can do is learn from the situation and hope you do not miss this the next time. You saw the TO request and you granted. You got it right, not sure what else you expect to do.

Peace

[Ref_ Fred]

JR, I was trying to get different opinions. One poster mentioned that about of calling primary. I know the call was correct. I justed wanted to get different Opinions. I got mixed opinions from some of the officials I spoke to.

I wanted some honest opinions like yourself on this thread.