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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 03:50pm
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Red face Tech/Basket Interference

A1 goes up for a layup, B1 slaps the backboard hard, not attempting to block the ball. Tech./ball at half. Do you not count the basket if he makes it? Should you let it go, even though it was excessive and no attempt was made on the ball. A1 attempts the layup and B1 slaps the backboard going for the ball, you believe the vibration caused by slaping the backboard may have caused the ball not to go in, can you just call basket interference?
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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 04:17pm
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What a coinkadink...I was looking for the rules about this last night at a Spring League game. Most of the varsity games I have called have been girls and in the other games it never came up. Last night, my partner calls a travel...A1 continues for a layup and B1 slaps the backboard (after a half-hearted attempt at the ball). I went blank on the rules and between games could not find them.

For the life of me, I still cannot remember them...and don't have my books with me at work.
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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 04:19pm
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First reply in new format -

Part 1 - yes, call the tech and count the basket, however ball not at half court, after free-throws, ball at baseline. (I might need some help on that "ball not at half court" part).

Part 2 - No basket interference has occurred, nor any other violation.
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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 04:45pm
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Part 1 - yes, call the tech and count the basket, however ball not at half court, after free-throws, ball at baseline. (I might need some help on that "ball not at half court" part).

Part 2 - No basket interference has occurred, nor any other violation.
Hmmm...I could be wrong here, but why are you counting the basket in Part 1??? The T is for slapping the backboard, but no BI or GT took place, so we call the T but do not count the basket.
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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 05:11pm
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Hmmm...I could be wrong here, but why are you counting the basket in Part 1??? The T is for slapping the backboard, but no BI or GT took place, so we call the T but do not count the basket.
What I would do is wait for the try to end then enforce the T. It will be brought back in at half court. If the try is good, count it if not then don't.....
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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 05:20pm
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Let me say this first, yes your whacking the kid for trying to bring attention to himself, but at the same time there is no reason to have a tech if the ball goes in the hole, leave it alone, cause the way I interpret this is that it is just like calling an off ball foul while another player is in the act of shooting, if it goes you have to count the basket as well, you can't just say I am waving it off because it didn't leave his hand before i blew my whistle or something of that sort. IMO if you call the tech make sure the ball doesn't go in the hole.

With the kid making the legit attempt on the ball, I think by rule you have to leave it alone or call a tech. As far as I have read there is no rule that says that if in the officials judgement he thinks the player makes a play on the ball, but still slaps the board hard enough that it shakes the rim hard enough for the ball not to go in that you can call BI, but I don't think that would keep me from calling BI if this type of situation arose.

SamIam in HS the ball will be at half court in College I am pretty certain it is an unsportsmanlike Tech and POI, I could be wrong though.
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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 05:55pm
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!0 Let me say this first, yes your whacking the kid for trying to bring attention to himself, but at the same time there is no reason to have a tech if the ball goes in the hole, leave it alone, cause the way I interpret this is that it is just like calling an off ball foul while another player is in the act of shooting, if it goes you have to count the basket as well, you can't just say I am waving it off because it didn't leave his hand before i blew my whistle or something of that sort.

2) With the kid making the legit attempt on the ball, I think by rule you have to leave it alone or call a tech.
1) That has to be the longest sentence ever written. Anyway....the reason for the tech is to penalize a player for trying to bring attention to himself. The judgement involved is whether the defender was legitimately trying to block the shot or was just whacking the board to make noise. Whether the ball goes in or not is never relevant to the call in any way.

2) Wrong. You can't call a "T" by rule ever on a legitimate attempt to make a block.

See the COMMENT in case book play 10.3.5. The interpretation is exactly the same in NCAA.
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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 08:58pm
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1) That has to be the longest sentence ever written. Anyway....the reason for the tech is to penalize a player for trying to bring attention to himself. The judgement involved is whether the defender was legitimately trying to block the shot or was just whacking the board to make noise. Whether the ball goes in or not is never relevant to the call in any way.

2) Wrong. You can't call a "T" by rule ever on a legitimate attempt to make a block.

See the COMMENT in case book play 10.3.5. The interpretation is exactly the same in NCAA.

My point in 2 was that by rule you can't have BI so if you want to give the kid two points or an attempt at two points because the basket didn't go in, then the only things that is backed by rule is a T. It is your judgement that decides if he slapped the backboard or not to draw attention to himself, so even if you think he made a legit attempt you could tell the coach that he was trying to draw attention, and there would be people agree with you and not.
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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 05:36pm
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Hmmm...I could be wrong here, but why are you counting the basket in Part 1??? The T is for slapping the backboard, but no BI or GT took place, so we call the T but do not count the basket.
I see the try in the air on this one, if it goes, it counts. A whistle does not make a try dead here.
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