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Old Sun Dec 01, 2024, 10:45pm
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Should read B not in bonus...

Vet thinks POI is using AP for a throw in at div. line opposite the table!
Unfortunately it seems like a lot officials think that POI =AP.. We're almost never going AP here unless it was during a missed try or jump ball..has anyone ever hand a double foul or IW dking a jump ball there is another possible way to get there but I'll skip thst one
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Old Mon Dec 02, 2024, 09:11am
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Unfortunately it seems like a lot officials think that POI =AP.. We're almost never going AP here unless it was during a missed try or jump ball..has anyone ever hand a double foul or IW dking a jump ball there is another possible way to get there but I'll skip thst one
The other way is a ball that goes out of bounds simultaneously touched by opponents. It isn't common, but is one that it would do well to remember. This is one reason why we might have a re-jump at the beginning of the game or overtime.
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Old Mon Dec 02, 2024, 07:30pm
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The other way is a ball that goes out of bounds simultaneously touched by opponents. It isn't common, but is one that it would do well to remember. This is one reason why we might have a re-jump at the beginning of the game or overtime.
That's not it. If we had that call, the ball would be already dead. You can't have a live ball simultaneous touch turn into an AP unless it wasa situation already listed where no TC exists.
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Old Tue Dec 03, 2024, 12:51am
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NFHS Rule 7-3 says otherwise. "If the ball goes out of bounds and was last touched simultaneously by two opponents, both of whom are inbounds or out of bounds, or if the official is in doubt as to who last touched the ball or if the officials disagree, play shall be resumed by the team entitled to the alternating-possession throw-in at the spot nearest to where the out-of-bounds violation occurred". There is no mention of team control in Rule 7-3.
NCAA Men's Rule 6-4 refers to a ball that was "last touched simultaneously by two opponents, both of whom were inbounds or out of bounds, or when the officials are in doubt as to who last touched the ball".

NCAA Women's Rule 6-4.1(b) is identical to the NCAA Men's rule.
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Old Thu Dec 05, 2024, 11:10am
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NFHS Rule 7-3 says otherwise. "If the ball goes out of bounds and was last touched simultaneously by two opponents, both of whom are inbounds or out of bounds, or if the official is in doubt as to who last touched the ball or if the officials disagree, play shall be resumed by the team entitled to the alternating-possession throw-in at the spot nearest to where the out-of-bounds violation occurred". There is no mention of team control in Rule 7-3.
NCAA Men's Rule 6-4 refers to a ball that was "last touched simultaneously by two opponents, both of whom were inbounds or out of bounds, or when the officials are in doubt as to who last touched the ball".

NCAA Women's Rule 6-4.1(b) is identical to the NCAA Men's rule.

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I understand the rule fine. You're not understanding my post. We're talking about double fouls that occurs during a live ball and where they can go straight AP.. simultaneous touching is always going to be a deadball thing.if we have a a looseball scenario where there a simultaneous touch and before the ball goes out of bounds and there's a double foul, we go POI, I. This case it would be whoever had TC at the time or if not TC because of a try or during a jump ball, we e go AP...
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Old Thu Dec 05, 2024, 01:54pm
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I understand the rule fine. You're not understanding my post. We're talking about double fouls that occurs during a live ball and where they can go straight AP..
Now I'm getting confused.

A double foul that occurs during a live ball does not result in an alternating possession situation, but a point of interruption situation, unless there is no team control.
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Old Thu Dec 05, 2024, 02:47pm
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Now I'm getting confused.

A double foul that occurs during a live ball does not result in an alternating possession situation, but a point of interruption situation, unless there is no team control.
go back to where I said that POI !=AP. Theres only certain situations where POI will result in AP. The situation he brought up was one where we already had an AP throwin so the POI after a double foul was already known.
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