Resume Play

[The_Rookie]

We have a common foul on A24 for a hold in the lane. B not in bonus. Then during the dead ball right after the foul is called. A12 and B10 mix it up resulting in a double ejection for fighting.

Question: How do we resume play? Where is the location of the throw-in?

We had a 30 year vet coming in fast and over rule how to resume that a 3rd year official made.

[Raymond]

Who committed the foul? You said A24 but then said A was not in the bonus.

Whichever, what could it be other than the POI prior to the fight? That should be rhetorical. If an official rules otherwise they should be apologizing within 15 minutes of the final horn after being shown a citation.

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[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Who committed the foul? You said A24 but then said A was not in the bonus.

Whichever, what could it be other than the POI prior to the fight? That should be rhetorical. If an official rules otherwise they should be apologizing within 15 minutes of the final horn after being shown a citation.

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Should read B not in bonus...

Vet thinks POI is using AP for a throw in at div. line opposite the table!

[Mike Goodwin]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Should read B not in bonus...

Vet thinks POI is using AP for a throw in at div. line opposite the table!

The vet was correct - but only through the end of the 2004-05 season - when the current rule was put into place the following year.

Per the relevant parts of 4-36:

ART. 1 . . . Method of resuming play due to ... a double technical ... foul as in Rule 4-19-8.

ART. 2 . . . Play shall be resumed by one of the following methods: a. A throw-in to the team that was in control: 1. In the frontcourt at one of the four designated spots nearest to where the ball was located when the interruption occurred. (Diagram 5)

A few casebook play illustrate, but the rule itself is sufficient.

Ancient reference:
https://forum.officiating.com/basket...tml#post314497


"Rules are easy. Rules changes are hard." -that famous official from a little corner of Connecticut.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Mike Goodwin

The vet was correct - but only through the end of the 2004-05 season - when the current rule was put into place the following year.

Per the relevant parts of 4-36:

ART. 1 . . . Method of resuming play due to ... a double technical ... foul as in Rule 4-19-8.

ART. 2 . . . Play shall be resumed by one of the following methods: a. A throw-in to the team that was in control: 1. In the frontcourt at one of the four designated spots nearest to where the ball was located when the interruption occurred. (Diagram 5)

A few casebook play illustrate, but the rule itself is sufficient.

Ancient reference:
https://forum.officiating.com/basket...tml#post314497


"Rules are easy. Rules changes are hard." -that famous official from a little corner of Connecticut.

You did a great job of providing the historical context and how the rule has changed, but then you cited the wrong part of the POI rule. The relevant part for this situation is part b.

[Mike Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You did a great job of providing the historical context and how the rule has changed, but then you cited the wrong part of the POI rule. The relevant part for this situation is part b.

Shoot. The ball was already dead in the OP, so yes, 2b applies.

[Mike Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You did a great job of providing the historical context and how the rule has changed, but then you cited the wrong part of the POI rule. The relevant part for this situation is part b.

Shoot. The ball was already dead in the OP, so yes, 2b applies.

4-36-2 . . . Play shall be resumed by one of the following methods: b. A free throw or a throw-in when the interruption occurred during this activity or if a team is entitled to such. [emphasis added]

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

Should read B not in bonus...

Vet thinks POI is using AP for a throw in at div. line opposite the table!

Unfortunately it seems like a lot officials think that POI =AP.. We're almost never going AP here unless it was during a missed try or jump ball..has anyone ever hand a double foul or IW dking a jump ball there is another possible way to get there but I'll skip thst one

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Unfortunately it seems like a lot officials think that POI =AP.. We're almost never going AP here unless it was during a missed try or jump ball..has anyone ever hand a double foul or IW dking a jump ball there is another possible way to get there but I'll skip thst one

The other way is a ball that goes out of bounds simultaneously touched by opponents. It isn't common, but is one that it would do well to remember. This is one reason why we might have a re-jump at the beginning of the game or overtime.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

The other way is a ball that goes out of bounds simultaneously touched by opponents. It isn't common, but is one that it would do well to remember. This is one reason why we might have a re-jump at the beginning of the game or overtime.

That's not it. If we had that call, the ball would be already dead. You can't have a live ball simultaneous touch turn into an AP unless it wasa situation already listed where no TC exists.